I kinda like electricity, and heat.

Do you know what happens when societal structure collapses?

People with power and wealth accumulate more power and wealth.

People with the means and willingness to do violence acquire power and wealth from the vulnerable.

People without power, wealth and the means to do violence die.

Sometimes people here are just too eager for societal collapse.

I like having running water, hot and cold, safe and clean enough to drink it.

I like having a toilet that I just flush my crap away.

These will no longer be available during a societal collapse.

And then everyone who can't grow or rob their calories would be fucked.

Cool and then you and your family and loved ones starve, don’t get the medical attention and maintenance they need, same with meds, emergency services, etc.

Don’t forgot you’re one of the fucking morons living inside and depending on the society you’re gleefully imagining collapse. So many innocents will be killed just from the fall of all of these services and whatnot.

What is "wage garnishment" for 200

They would bring back debtor's prisons, and enjoy their new source of slave labor.

I'm all for an organized, mass bill payment "strike" and some businesses would be effected, though not really any very large companies, who would benefit the most from having their competitors go out of business (and forced to sell or merge their assets for a fraction of their value) than we would by saving $100-200 per month, which we would spend, corporations would raise prices, and all of that money just flows back to the banks anyway.

Now tenant organizing and rent strikes, that's where you can actually fuck shit up and make demands many times. But like your gas company doesn't give I shit, you just won't have heat, fuck you.

It would be nice if this was true but it still based on the illusion of a free market

Fun fact: Most red states derive a significant portion of their tax revenue from sales tax. In some places (like Texas) it accounts for 80% of the state's budget. If enough people significantly reduced their spending in red states, they could cripple the government and break no laws or contracts that would expose them to legal liabilities.

No they wouldn't
The second it became clear this was a larger theme they would sell the debt at a premium to the debt collectors
If it somehow got to the point of hurting a utility or big company government would ride in to the rescue

Reminds me of those chain text messages about kids skipping school. "They can't give us all detentention!" I don't remember it ever working though.

Finally, I get the support I need to get started on that fasting diet I've been considering

That's true and part of me would love to see that, but some utilities (such as water and electric) going under would probably be a bad thing if there wasn't a plan to swoop in and bring them under public control right away. Otherwise, things would get bad really quick in a lot of places if power and water stopped being available for everyone for an extended time. Things like hospitals, grocery stores, repair shops, etc. would all be working at greatly reduced capacity and capability. Barring a full-on revolution where the people could seize these utilities for public ownership and operate it themselves, I don't see that happening because the government would be likely to simply bail out a lot of the companies, or they'd be bought up and probably end up being consolidated by an even fewer number of people.

accelerationists love this trick

It would take years. This is a dumb take. Now not spending our money at big corporations and giving a little extra to the small places WILL help over time. And everyone can survive.

They'd also stop providing whatever service they provide, which is why nobody will actually follow through on this.

Jesus Christ now any revolution is accelerationism, huh? And this is the response on Lemmy of all places. We really are doomed.

Not taking a side on this. Instead asking a question and hoping for someone to explain

Those who do not support the idea of this kind of strike, do you support the idea of a general strike? A collection work-stoppage? If so, what is the fundamental difference? I have my opinions, but I really want to know yours.

Also, I fucking love mid-sentence exclamation points. It makes me happy every time I see it.