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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Californian homeowners did this to themselves.

Oh, housing should be a luxury for the rich only? Then stop complaining about homelessness. That’s what happens when something becomes exclusive: less people have it. You asked for this because you wanted to be feel rich.

What’s next? If you’re not a member of an exclusive country club you’re a criminal?

But sure, keep eating up your unearned stack of cash you filthy pigs. Hope it was worth it.

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 11 points 15 hours ago

California liberals are fascists

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 62 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 5 hours ago

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 80 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Is...is an RV not shelter? I mean it's maybe not Permanent Housing but living in an RV is almost always gonna be better than being in a shelter. These libs are fucking monsters.

[–] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 2 points 6 hours ago

It's their own private domicile and they will not be harassed!

[–] regul@hexbear.net 40 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

yeah but think of the valuable parking they're taking up!

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 26 points 21 hours ago

They’re stealing that parking area from poor self-driving taxi startups!

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago

The housing for the homeless in SF is a disgrace considering how wealthy that area is. From the Bluesky thread a post described the following article as...

Gee idk is the no food, the no cooking, no personal freedom, or the r*pes that might make people feel safer in their vehicles or on the street?

I only scanned this article - I'm sure there's (much) more that I didn't see.

Why do some SF homeless people choose the street over a bed?

Some complained of the shelters’ unsanitary conditions and dearth of food; residents are served two meals a day, the sites’ employees said. Others, particularly women concerned about sexual assault and harassment, have long complained about security and the lack of freedom to walk in and out of the shelters at will.

Rules that govern all city shelters forbid, among other “disruptive” behaviors, drug use, destruction of property, and the possession of unchecked weapons. Still, those affected by the sweeps described high rates of theft, crowded and chaotic living quarters, and unsympathetic staff. They criticized the congregate shelters’ lack of privacy, saying they would rather sleep in their own tent than in a room with dozens of strangers.

[...]

Across the city’s shelters, residents are required to sign in and out; it’s a simple way to keep track of peoples’ whereabouts while maintaining a low barrier for entry, staff said. Staff can’t force guests to stay or return. But this system, coupled with periodic wellness checks, allows them to monitor how often the shelters’ resources are being used. If someone is gone for more than 48 hours, they forfeit their bed.

[...]

The city tries to make the most of the space it has, Cohen said. That means that some buildings, like Next Door, a former car dealership, have their eccentricities. “This reminds me of a prison setup,” said Marshall, the shelter’s housing director, pointing to a small room enclosed by glass at the center of the women’s floor that is used as a common area. “COs would be right here,” Marshall noted, using the acronym for “corrections officers.”

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 3 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Issue is where you park it, if you don't have permission to park it where it is that's trespassing.

[–] bortsampson@hexbear.net 3 points 6 hours ago

Issue is where you park it, if you don't have permission to park it where it is that's trespassing.

If people are parking on private property in California too fucking bad. You brought this on yourselves. I've heard this argument made on Thiel's personal bootlicker reddit HackerNews. The thing is, if you drill down into most of the comments the people are really complaining about not getting street parking by their houses or the smell. Look, I get it, everyone draining their waste into the stormwater drains is a public health issue and it fucking makes everything smell in the heat. The same people that are complaining are the same ones that refuse to have public housing in their neighborhood or having their taxes raised. God forbid you do the logical thing and solve the problem instead of towing it to Oakland. If it wasn't absolutely abhorent it would almost be comical. Capitalists drive people into homelessness. Capitalist protection thugs in CIA sell drugs to homeless to fund capitalist protection. Capitalists complain about homeless and drugs.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 9 points 18 hours ago

oh no, oh god anything but that

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 25 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Trespassing is stupid abolish private property

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 11 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

To and extend I'd agree. If you own a bunch of property you're not using then yes, people should be allowed to use it productively. Idk if I'd want to let people into my apartment to use my toothbrush.

Perhaps a controversial take: I honestly think the best short term solution to the homelessness problem is just for the city to buy/seize some vacant lots and let them be open camping zones. People get freaked out by this because of the whole "sanctuary zones" from Star Trek thing, but honestly I think it's probably better than having the population spread across the city living on side walks and parks. If you have one specific location where people can camp you can more easily provide services to them, have toilets and showers, send one of those mobile health clinic things parked there, maybe have some local orgs do soup kitchens to get people food.

The more permanent solution is to provide people fucking housing but that takes time.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 18 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

A toothbrush is personal property not private property. I am a big believer in personal property but fuck private property. If you're using it it's personal. If you're holding onto it to try to extract monetary value out of it it's private.

[–] worlds_okayest_mech_pilot@hexbear.net 20 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: Everyone should just share Gavin Newsom's house. When he wakes up and sees the length of the toothbrush line, hopefully he'll reconsider ~~ever showing his face in public~~ some policies

[–] bortsampson@hexbear.net 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I for one, would love to hear Gavin Newsom complain about all the poop in his bed instead of the poop in the parks.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's not the worst short term solution, but commandeering hotels is pretty quick too.

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 8 points 21 hours ago

Either San Fran or LA had some project to convert a bunch of abandoned motels into apartments for homeless people. They blew like 50 mil on it and I think they've yet to open a single unit because corruption and scummy contractors are so that bad in this shithole of a country. Hence why actually providing people with permanent housing is sadly gonna take a while in this county.

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Your apartment and your toothbrush are personal property, not private property. Theirs a distinction between the two.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Your apartment and toothbrush are personal property, but Gavin Newsom's...

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 11 points 21 hours ago

After the revolution, Gavin Newsom will be expropriated. The person. He could be used as a cutting board or something.

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 6 points 21 hours ago

Yeah I know I just like making toothbrush jokes

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 25 points 21 hours ago

Homeless

Living in RVs

Okay I lived in an RV for like a year and while there are certainly some downsides I’m pretty comfortable calling it a home. Like, how is that homeless, you have a bedroom!

[–] miz@hexbear.net 29 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

two months later: "why can't we fill any of our minimum wage positions?"

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago

Cali Gov Gavin Newsom: It's illegal to be homeless

SF Mayor London Breed: And it's about $200/day to the impound lot if you're not quite homeless enough yet

https://subium.com/profile/criminalerin.bsky.social/post/3l4mjk3ro5j25

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 22 points 22 hours ago

I've never been more glad to have left the malignant tumor known as Silicon Valley far behind.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 17 points 22 hours ago

This guy certainly is a London breed.

[–] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 11 points 20 hours ago

London Breed?!!