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[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Issue is where you park it, if you don't have permission to park it where it is that's trespassing.

[–] bortsampson@hexbear.net 3 points 8 hours ago

Issue is where you park it, if you don't have permission to park it where it is that's trespassing.

If people are parking on private property in California too fucking bad. You brought this on yourselves. I've heard this argument made on Thiel's personal bootlicker reddit HackerNews. The thing is, if you drill down into most of the comments the people are really complaining about not getting street parking by their houses or the smell. Look, I get it, everyone draining their waste into the stormwater drains is a public health issue and it fucking makes everything smell in the heat. The same people that are complaining are the same ones that refuse to have public housing in their neighborhood or having their taxes raised. God forbid you do the logical thing and solve the problem instead of towing it to Oakland. If it wasn't absolutely abhorent it would almost be comical. Capitalists drive people into homelessness. Capitalist protection thugs in CIA sell drugs to homeless to fund capitalist protection. Capitalists complain about homeless and drugs.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 9 points 20 hours ago

oh no, oh god anything but that

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trespassing is stupid abolish private property

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

To and extend I'd agree. If you own a bunch of property you're not using then yes, people should be allowed to use it productively. Idk if I'd want to let people into my apartment to use my toothbrush.

Perhaps a controversial take: I honestly think the best short term solution to the homelessness problem is just for the city to buy/seize some vacant lots and let them be open camping zones. People get freaked out by this because of the whole "sanctuary zones" from Star Trek thing, but honestly I think it's probably better than having the population spread across the city living on side walks and parks. If you have one specific location where people can camp you can more easily provide services to them, have toilets and showers, send one of those mobile health clinic things parked there, maybe have some local orgs do soup kitchens to get people food.

The more permanent solution is to provide people fucking housing but that takes time.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A toothbrush is personal property not private property. I am a big believer in personal property but fuck private property. If you're using it it's personal. If you're holding onto it to try to extract monetary value out of it it's private.

[–] worlds_okayest_mech_pilot@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: Everyone should just share Gavin Newsom's house. When he wakes up and sees the length of the toothbrush line, hopefully he'll reconsider ~~ever showing his face in public~~ some policies

[–] bortsampson@hexbear.net 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I for one, would love to hear Gavin Newsom complain about all the poop in his bed instead of the poop in the parks.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That's not the worst short term solution, but commandeering hotels is pretty quick too.

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 8 points 23 hours ago

Either San Fran or LA had some project to convert a bunch of abandoned motels into apartments for homeless people. They blew like 50 mil on it and I think they've yet to open a single unit because corruption and scummy contractors are so that bad in this shithole of a country. Hence why actually providing people with permanent housing is sadly gonna take a while in this county.

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Your apartment and your toothbrush are personal property, not private property. Theirs a distinction between the two.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Your apartment and toothbrush are personal property, but Gavin Newsom's...

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 11 points 23 hours ago

After the revolution, Gavin Newsom will be expropriated. The person. He could be used as a cutting board or something.

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 6 points 23 hours ago

Yeah I know I just like making toothbrush jokes