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[–] Barx@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not just offered, I paid got it and ate it.

Veggie tacos.

Each taco entailed:

  • A cold supermarket corn tortilla. The kind that fall apart if you don't cook them.

  • Steamed freezer bag vegetables.

  • No spices.

[–] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] un_mask_me@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Fish. "Fish isn't meat so I thought it was okay."

[–] windowlicker@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

i was JUST asked at a recent gathering (that had only animal products for food) if i "still eat fish" and was met with shock when i said no. do people genuinely think fish aren't living beings or something?

[–] macerated_baby_presidents@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think it has to do with traditional (religious? catholics) categorization of flesh into meat, poultry, and fish. they think "animals" means "meat"

[–] Eris235@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

A lot of languages also don't consider 'meat' to include 'fish meat', having entirely separate words for the two.

but yeah, I think in the US, its mostly catholicism brainworms

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

they think "animals" means meat

I'm confused, fish are animals?

when they think "animals", they think of the culinary category of meat. Not animal as in "animal, mineral, or vegetable". It's an overloaded word.

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Was just asked the same too! I legitimately do not get it cat-confused

[–] roux@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know a guy that proudly calls himself "vegetarian" and eats fish and shrimp. Like pescatarian is a thing, homie. Why bother pretending? It wouldn't bug me so much but last time we at at a thing together he was proudly proclaiming to someone that he was vegetarian as he ordered a salmon dish.

[–] hungrybread@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I had a coworker like that! His going away meal was sushi lmao.

When asked why he didn't say pescetarian he said he just didn't like the word (?). Whatever the hell that means. Guess he wanted some kind of vegetarian street cred lol.

[–] roux@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

he said he just didn't like the word (?).

lol why not just say "I only eat fish and veggies." Hell, even "fish-etarian" as a made up word is both informative and goofy. Go with that if he wants a fun word!

[–] shreddingitlater@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This happens so often in Japan, they'll also avoid marking fish as an allergen warning in food, even though they'll list things like dairy, meat, eggs, and even soy.

I have a running joke with friends where I'll always ask if some food has fish in it (i.e. pick up an apple and say "does this have fish in it?")

[–] Eris235@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

That would literally kill me (well, probably actually just sent me to the hospital).

I thought, when I first went vegetarian (vegan now) years ago, that I wouldn't need to specify 'no fish' when I ordered food labeled 'vegetarian'. But Fish sauce or Oyster sauce has sent me to the hospital at least once.

I no don't really eat out ever anymore, as I don't feel like gambling on the 1% cross contamination chart (got several other allergies too), but its crazy to me that food labeled as vegetarian is allowed to have fish sauce in it.

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Did the person who tell you this happen to be Catholic?

[–] illi@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My uncle used to be vegetarian, but ate fish. He is a catholic. What's up with that?

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Catholics are obligated to not eat "meat" on Ash Wednesday and Fridays during Lent. However, when used by Catholics, the term "meat" doesn't encompass fish. I remember being taught this, and I asked my grandmother, "But isn't fish a form of meat?" She then showed me a page from an explicitly Catholic glossary that defined "meat" as flesh that comes from land animals specifically, so it didn't include seafood at all. It's silly as hell to me that an animal living underwater somehow negates the "meat" property from its flesh when you consume it.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Catholic mental gymnstics never cease to amaze...

[–] un_mask_me@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't put it past them lol

[–] AndJusticeForAll@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

When they lie and try to sneak in some butter or eggs because it's "just a little bit" and I can both taste it and then definitely feel it later.

[–] shreddingitlater@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

I've told my older family, constantly, over and over, that I'm vegan and I was offered corn for dinner once with nothing else.

Took one bite and the corn was obviously cooked in butter, so I loudly dumped it all in the trash and walked out.

[–] Inui@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Was backpacking in another country and quickly ordering breakfast from a place our guide was familiar with while waiting for a bus to arrive.

Ordered a veggie sandwich, assuming it would come with a variety of things, but my guide knew I wanted no animal products and explained it to them. They came back with a plate of plain white bread and lettuce because they took off the cheese, mayo, and whatever else they'd normally put on it.

They thought it was really funny and honestly I did too so I just asked for some peanut butter and ate the bread up. Woulda been annoyed if I was at home, but can only control so much when theres's a language barrier and you're in a completely different country where the word 'vegan' only entered the lexicon in the last 2 years.

Edit: I did get annoyed at another restaurant in the same country because the way they do their menus is that they have a regular one and a vegan one and everything has the exact same name. So you have to specifically say you're ordering from the vegan menu or else you get something smothered in cheese. But I didn't know that because I had only seen the vegan menu. Shoulda been more cautious though.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

An eggplant parmigiana: the eggplant was mostly raw and barely heated, there was some greens based sauce that was just kale and oil blended or something, tasted awful, and a pretty simple tomato sauce that could have come out of a bottle.

To this day I don’t understand how I didn’t blow up in vegan rage at being disrespected on such a fundamental “I want edible food” level. It wasn’t cheap either.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Skill issue from the cook, eggplant parmegiana is good shit

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Oh I know ... it's why I ordered it and why I should have marched back into the place and scolded the shit out of everyone who let it pass.

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

Seconding that it's a skill issue. Eggplants are fucking SOLID when done right.

Grilled eggplant and roasted portobello burgers are amazing.

[–] roux@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So I was involved for a while with our local Democrats club. I got 2 meals off the top of my head.

The first was at a banquet that I wasn't even going to go to. But they "pulled some strings" and talked the chef into making me a special dish. Fucking fine sure I'll go. So the meal was a dry as fuck salad with just lettuce and carrots and no dressing for the appetizer. Then the entre was overcooked penne and severely over steamed veggies. It was fucking insultingly bland too. couldn't have even added mushrooms or beans or whatever.

The second was at a supposedly upscale Italian place and since I'm autistic I checked the menu like the day before to both make sure I can eat there and to plan what I was going to order. The meal I asked for was a pasta with marinara, mushrooms and jalapenos. Nowhere did it say it had parmesan cheese in it. First it took a goddamn hour to get to the table. And second as I started eating I noticed stringy white cheese and the telltale sign of parm sticking to the prongs of my fork. I'm not a fucking idiot and I've only been vegan for 1.5 years so I fucking know what cheese looks like. I asked them if they fucked it up and they said of course not but they could double check with the kitchen to make sure. They had the audacity to come back and say they made it vegan but will comp my beer as a generosity. Like I said I'm not a fucking idiot.

I have a thing about food waste and it was an hour of waiting so I did begrudgingly eat it and like I'm still pissed about it but mostly for being so obviously gaslit over them fucking up.

On the flip side we have a vegan junk food food truck here that is ran by a pair of sisters that I'm convinced are legit anarchists. They work with the local Food not Bombs too.

And we hav another place that just went brick and mortar that has a full vegan menu that is most of their non vegan stuff but vegan-ified. Mostly texmex which is just fine by me.

And we have a gastro-pub hister joint that has fucking amazing food and about 1/4 of the menu is vegan and they are always running vegan specials.

Those three places will always get my money.

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] hungrybread@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Maybe it's just cause of where I'm from, but other than the lettuce and tomatoes I'd order and enjoy that. At least something is edible on the menu, which is better than basically every restaurant near me.

Am I missing something? Is the sauce dairy 🤔?

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"OH shit, we gotta throw a vegan option on the menu! Quick! Throw whatever veggies we have in the fridge onto this tortilla!"

[–] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yves hotdog... When I was a vegetarian 30 years ago, I really appreciated them. It let me eat hotdogs with family without me feeling like an oddity. The recipe hasn't changed. They were never good, but now there's options that are good, and culturally people are pretty OK with having veggie options now

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yves salami still holds up. It's almost too accurate, really. I often prefer in-no-way-a-facsimile vegan deli slices for that reason.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Had their pepperoni on a homemade pizza tonight, with soy curls dried by a local vegan restaurant, simple stewed tomato sauce, garlic lemon cashew sauce ("cheese" if you must), truffle salt, sprinkled with fresh parsley. Fucking great.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Ooh nice. I've found that if you separately fry vegan pepperoni in oil it gets the right crisoed up flavor + texture. Game-changer for vegan pizzas!

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Once there were refried beans as part of a taco day at work, but by my turn it was just dried scrapings off the bottom and edge.

Also, that might not even be vegan or even vegetarian for that matter due to lard

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cauliflower steak that was just an entire cauliflower that had been steamed (I think?) and then torched somewhat.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

So close to greatness. You can just deep fry a whole cauliflower to make it amazing. Add basically any tangy or herbal sauce and you have a dish.

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

chef at work made a vegan rice pilaf that looked like someone said the word "mirepoix" at the pan. also a vegan jambalaya that was like, a sad collection of squash and well oxidized eggplant with a sprinkling of canned diced tomato which formed dried flakes over top

sorry those who ate it, i did not have the time to make a better one u_u

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's kind of impressive how otherwise good chefs forget how to cook the moment they're asked to leave out meat, milk, and eggs. There are already a bunch of dishes that are already accidentally vegan! Like spaghetti aglio e olio! Most bean dishes! Cook something like that!

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think it was mostly just that he was in a rush like he was just trying to help me get it all done by the needed time. But like, idk, I could have done better if I were workin' on it. And I think eggplant was just a bad choice because it looked gross after cooking. Needed a thicker tomato sauce imo to cover it lol

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 9 points 2 months ago

my wife: a block of cold tofu and a tub of coconut milk yoghurt

work function.

[–] sourquincelog@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

Any veggie option at a work thing

[–] Luna@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

A sand which that was pretty much just brocolli, celery, and lettuce. I only got this version once, I ordered it again and got cheese. Someone else I know decided to get it, cheese.