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[–] alyth@lemmy.world 77 points 8 months ago (6 children)

"I still don't get why people spend money"

Because you want to support specific content creators and free isn't sustainable

[–] li10 40 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Yeah, but for porn tho…

Just beat your meat to standard stuff or meet someone IRL, rather than developing some unhealthy attachment to someone on OF who’s exploiting your desperation.

I dunno, I guess if you just wanna pay for porn you like then it’s fine, but some people develop very unhealthy attachments/obsessions to supplement a real human connection.

[–] CluelessLemmyng@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's no different than subscribing to twitch/YouTube creators. The content is just different. There are plenty of people with unhealthy obsessions that aren't related to porn.

[–] li10 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You’re right, it’s the same as the lonely people being exploited by Twitch streamers or YT creators.

There’s a point it goes from “supporting a creator” to “throwing money at someone so they acknowledge your existence and you feel validated”.

Honestly part of the reason I stopped watching twitch, it’s just sad at a certain point as these people think they’re actually friends with the creator, rather than just enjoying the stream for what it is.

The whole donation/sub part of twitch culture is disgusting imo.

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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 22 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, but for porn tho…

So what you're saying is sex workers aren't real workers and don't deserve to be paid. If that becomes true and no one pays for porn, GUESS WHAT: no more porn. It has to be profitable for the people doing it. It's not like art, the vast, vast majority aren't doing it because they love it. They're doing it for money.

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

[...] It's not like art, [...]

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah, even if nobody paid for porn there would still be porn. In fact, there's already enough porn already made out there that we have enough to last us for centuries. But even disregarding what's already out there, people would still make porn for free because they want to show off and share their videos.

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[–] explodicle@local106.com 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

the vast, vast majority

Not to disagree with your main point - everyone deserves to be paid - but porn scales so well that we might already have enough free amateur production for everyone. It just doesn't get to the top of SEO-optimized searches.

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 62 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I know I might be a bit of a porn snob but since I have the means I will attempt to pay for my porn. It's hard to know if any random porn video was made ethically and that the actors/actresses are being paid appropriately. That's why I like onlyfans. This way I'm, mostly, assured the money is is going directly to the preformer(s).

Not to say onlyfans can't be predatory. As long as I am being descerning in my purchases I am comfortable with it. If an onlyfans model started wildly blurring the line of service provider and customer, I would recommend not paying for services any more. This can be difficult too because I know some of the services invovle intense interpersonal sexual fantasy. I would just say be careful. Especially if you find yourself struggling financially.

Edit:

This isn't to say all free porn is ethically/morally wrong. I do still browse pornhub etc. I just don't have the where withal to investigate every single content creator. You never know, the actor/actresses could seem as though they are producing the content at their own volition but there could be a business partner that is taking advantage.

All this to say, we should be more careful when consuming porn.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

I thought about paying for it. I checked out my favorite site, and it costs more than my monthly phone bill, that's just absurd. And greedy.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 57 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Buy local from small producers

[–] Arcity@feddit.nl 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are 23 singles in your area

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

THATS A LOT OF TITS

(Plz read that in the voice of the nuts guy in Kung Pow)

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or make your own at home, it's cheaper and sustainable.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I know for a fact that's what your mom does.

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[–] r00ty@kbin.life 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)
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[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 45 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Not quite OnlyFans, but when you have specific interests, you gotta find specific folks with skills tailored towards those interests.

Source: Close buddy of mine is a furry fetish artist. Not suspiciously wealthy, but he's full time drawing raptor asses.

[–] CallMeButtLove@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I don't get the whole furry thing but sometimes I wish I had artistic talents because I would have no qualms getting paid to draw whatever degenerative crap people are into these days. Seems like a solid side hustle.

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[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

But… Raptors didn’t have fur 🧐

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 8 months ago (6 children)

That's what you're hung up on? There's a whole subgenre of sharks with tits.

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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

I still don't get why people spend money... there's tons of it for free

There are free video games. There are paid video games. Why do people pay for video games if free ones exist?

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

There's advantages to paying for video games, even single player such as cloud saves as one example. For multiplayer games you get online play with dedicated servers, rather than finding a workaround like LAN tunneling with pirated games.

You literally get nothing special from paying for porn.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (4 children)

That's fine if you're into vanilla porn, but if you have a fetish even slightly more niche than what they've got on ex: Kink.com, you're not going to find more than a handful of videos for free (unless you go with piracy but that's beside the point). And those will be digitized German VHS tapes. And will be out of focus. So in situations like that, paying for porn (or, paying to support creators that produce content you enjoy) becomes a lot more attractive as an option.

... not that I'd know anything about it first hand.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

not that I'd know anything about it first hand

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[–] IdleSheep@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You literally get nothing special from paying for porn.

You literally get the most special content by paying for porn, personalized content that's catered to your needs. That's literally why you pay for it.

Yes, if I just want to see regular old sex I can just go to one of the bazillion free sites out there. But if I have a specific fetish that only a few creators are doing, of course it's worth paying for it to support the production of said content, especially if their onlyfans allows requests.

I totally understand that the vast majority of people are more than satisfied with typical porn and won't ever feel the need to pay for it, but there's so much diversity out there that the regular porn sites can't get to it all, and that's why some people pay for it, because they really want to scratch a specific itch.

And before someone says you can just pirate it, trust me, some stuff you can't even find pirated. I've been there. Some creators go through very convoluted methods of distributing their content to deter piracy (especially with pricier tiers fans usually don't want to spread it to keep it exclusive to themselves).

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[–] GCanuck@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

While I don’t disagree…. I’d just like to say, that if you pay enough for porn, you can get exactly what you’re looking for.

ROI isn’t worth it though.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago (6 children)

You’ve unintentionally stumbled upon one of modern gaming’s most pressing questions. When both free and paid options are a neverending smorgasbord of poor design choices, why purchase anything? Live service game models have shifted the landscape much closer to the free porn model for several game genres. Slightly tangential but… !patientgamers@sh.itjust.works

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[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Piracy is a matter of convenience. Buying a game is more convenient than pirating it. You can watch pirated porn movies with a simple Google search.

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 35 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I still don't get why people buy books... there's ton of it at library

I mean ya, but not the book I wanted to read specifically.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

FYI: your local library probably has a subscription to eBook software. And if you use that, do utilize it! Libraries often get more funding the more customers and utilization they have. And you can usually request certain books for your library to buy. That's really helpful for the librarians to figure out what their patrons want. Otherwise they often have to guess or just use national popular lists which might not fit as well.

But yeah, also buy books your library doesn't have.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Just like with video games, the people paying for it are what keeps the supply going for the freeloaders. They should grateful to them!

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[–] LikeTearsInTheRain@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 8 months ago (8 children)

If you claim to be a porn addict but have never been tempted by or succumbed to spending money on porn, are you really an addict?

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

My mate, Paul, is addicted to cigarettes but he never has his own fuckin smokes. You telling me, he ain't really an addict?

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

at least Paul doesn't need porn. He's addicted to being a cunt! ;)

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 10 points 8 months ago

I used to suck dick for porn.

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[–] summerof69@lemm.ee 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think people don't pay for porn, people pay to be able to interact with the girl.

[–] hannes3120@feddit.de 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Especially with those with 1000s of subscribers - how are people fooling themselves into thinking that they don't have someone answering their messages for them?

Some of the most popular ones have whole crews for filming - why should social media be something they do on their own?

I kind of get it for the ones with few subscribers though

[–] summerof69@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Our brains are highly effective at tricking us. And if a person is desperate for attention, they will fall into this trap. You're thinking rationally, but there's nothing rational about that in the right (or should I say wrong?) state of mind.

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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I mean, you know how there are a million free indie games and lots of slightly shady websites where you can download free copies of paid games? But lots of people still buy games because it's a better experience or they like to feel like they're supporting people who are making the kinds of games that they like? It's a lot like that, but with stigma.

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago

Let us not disrespect the paying consoomer as they effectively sponsor the rest of us, especially those using adblockers

[–] L0wded_@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

i dont get it either like why would you pay for porn when there are free porn?

[–] Gakomi@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm of the same sentiment but I don't judge people that pay for porn, after all without them paying for it there would be no money in the porn industry so as a consequence no porn either. Simply put I will never pay for porn but I'm glad that others do so I can feed my addiction.

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[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (7 children)

same reason you donate for a shoutout on twitch id assume

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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago

It's good to support creators if you like what they're doing. I've supported Zishy in the past because they do high quality tasteful clothed/teasing photos of women who look like real women (not that there's anything wrong with bimbos/plastic surgery). If you appreciate what someone is doing, monetary support isn't unusual at all.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Because they have more money than you. Disposable income is going to be disposed of, one way or another.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 8 months ago

The only porn I would pay for is something bespoke that I had to specifically request be made.

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