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The Trump administration has begun flying undocumented immigrants from the US to a military detention facility at Guantánamo Bay in Cuba, the White House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, said on Tuesday.

Leavitt told Fox Business Network that at least two deportation flights were “under way”, but gave no further details.

Her comments, however, appeared to confirm reporting by the Wall Street Journal, citing an anonymous official with knowledge of the operation, that about a dozen immigrants were onboard one flight from Fort Bliss, Texas. The newspaper said an additional flight had departed on Monday.

CNN later reported one of the flights had “about nine or 10” people onboard who were detained in the US without valid immigration documents.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 17 points 6 hours ago

Has the Orange Turd installed the ovens yet?

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 92 points 10 hours ago

The correct name is concentration camp. it is very important that people understand that this is a concentration camp.

The term "concentration camp" and "internment camp" are used to refer to a variety of systems that greatly differ in their severity, mortality rate, and architecture; their defining characteristic is that inmates are held outside the rule of law.[2] Extermination camps or death camps, whose primary purpose is killing, are also imprecisely referred to as "concentration camps".[3]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp

the new death camps outside of Germany's prewar borders could be kept secret from the German civil populace.[40]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

The fact that this camp is being set up outside the jurisdiction of the rule of law makes it a concentration camp and makes it 100x worse than any other immigration prison

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 88 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Sure would have been nice if Obama or Biden had actually closed Guantanamo Bay when they had the chance.

I liked to find silver linings where I can, and what I'm hoping is that when the shambles of the American government finally get back into Democratic hands (or whatever opposition party replaces them, at this point) there will finally be a realization that actual for real change is needed. Democratic politicians have been just treading water for decades now.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not American so I could be way off but didn't they try but were blocked by Republicans? At the very least they reduced the count of inmates to only the more complicated ones (ie. where do they get sent to, what do we, do we completely fried this guys brain, etc)

[–] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Yeah I remember Obama wanted to close it, but then the big question of where to move the prisoners to in the US had to be answered, and nobody wanted to hold them. It was politically dead at that point.

[–] Reasonable_Guy@lemmy.world 28 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I hope we all survive long enough for that to happen

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Unfortunately, I've just seen the "opposition" just fall in line. A bunch of spineless geriatric Nazi sympathizers.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 hours ago

Bold of you to assume that'll happen in our lifetime.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 41 points 10 hours ago

First they came for the immigrants, and I did not speak out
Because I'm one of the good ones

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 44 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

The point of Guantanamo Bay is that it's not under Cuban law and also not quite under US law. So they really want to be able to do anything to the people they deport there.

Having seen some of these leopards-eating-my-face stories, I expect there will be Trump voters who are surprised to suddenly find themselves being tortured in Guantanamo Bay. It's very frustrating because everyone did try to warn them.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Hopefully it's just Trump supporters getting that waterboard treatment.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 63 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I guess all men are not created equal.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 36 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

the man who wrote that owned ~150 people and forced children to work in a nail factory

[–] Rageagainstbelief@lemmy.world 47 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I get the irony but we should still try to work toward the ideal not away from it.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 11 points 10 hours ago

my point is more that american propaganda has always been this. america co-opts the messaging of liberation to subjugate and harm. our best bet is to try to learn what black women were saying in that era. best way to find out is to log out the internet and start connecting with other humans around us

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Of course they are. Some are just created more equal.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 25 points 11 hours ago
[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -2 points 7 hours ago

There it is! Every fucking thread. You're such a clever lad!

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

When is a prison camp not a prison camp? When it's run by the USA! 🥴

[–] Tja@programming.dev 18 points 11 hours ago

It's not a prison, they're just concentrating them there.

[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

"when it's a jarhead's"

there's close potential idfk

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

How are undocumented immigrants being deported usually handled? I'm assuming, unless the undocumented person gives ICE a country, they usually have no idea what an undocumented immigrant's nationality is and the undocumented immigrant usually doesn't want to give a country cuz they left for a reason.

So what was happening to deported undocumented immigrants before 2025?

[–] luigisuperfan69@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

definitely not an expert but i believe they’re allowed a trial and can apply for asylum if they’re scared to go back to their country. at guantanamo i do not believe they have that right.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago

Aha! Finally unveiling their evil scheme will surely bring them down!

Oh, they announced it themselves. Well, shit.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

Thank God he setup a prison camp to hold all the Trumpists and billionaires while they are waiting to be guillotined. That's going to come in handy.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 31 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Guantanamo is a notorious US torture facility, it doesn't need to be compared to other US torture facilities.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 5 points 12 hours ago

oh, agreed. I am talking about the proposed, insane expansion of facilities.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 11 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Are there protests happening in the US or are they all going huh he does this and that on social media

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Wasn't a traditional walk out, but just yesterday there was a TikTok spread one that got a few of my students out on the street in LA to protest and cause traffic. Got in the news, at least. Normally non profits and rights groups do it, like in 2017.

Also naturally it's only Latinos in that, everyone else are very complacent right now.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The "protest" is shooting ICE agents through your fucking door and fighting to your death. Y'all can go wave flags and chant all you like. I'm sure that would have given the Nazis pause to reconsider. I won't go to them, but they'll have a fight if they come to me.

My wife is brown and legal, so yes, I have a dog in this fight. I'll be at camp trying out some new gear if anyone wants to join me.

And here I get banned for "inciting violence". Get on the trains then, at least you'll have your "morals" intact. "At least we didn't let anyone agitate!" Warm yourself with those thoughts.

[–] Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org -5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Since this is about migrants and not about New Coke, i assume not.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Nah most people know migrants they care about

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Do they know people without citizenship though?

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

But those are the "good 'ombres"