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[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 105 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This isn't going to be popular, but part of the problem is not acknowledging that 42%. It's fucking insulting, frankly. Plenty of women voted for the bear.

EDIT: In light of reports of tons of guys saying "your body my choice" and shit, I actually regret writing this & everything below.

Like, what the fuck, boys?

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 81 points 5 days ago (19 children)

52% of white women voted for trump.

Chances are that many of the people crying about men voting trump, are part of a demographic that mostly voted trump.

Trump apparently won the popular vote anyway. Most of everyone who voted, voted trump. But let's focus on men and then be surprised that young men who are very insecure about themselves anyway, feel attacked by the left and choose the right.

[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 26 points 5 days ago (18 children)

Please don't get me confused, I don't think it's good this many men voted for The Stain. Also, 52% of WHITE women, but I bet if you combined ALL women, that number would drop dramatically.

My broader point is, IMO, that 42% never gets talked about so why would it grow, yeah?

Or, put another way, when I talk about women, who are my allies against the Patriarchy, I speak of why I like them (because I do, I LOVE women). They are resilient, strong, resourceful, grounded, etc, all the good stuff, and I try to include all women in that, they are my allies. I try NOT to focus on trad wives, manipulators, "gold diggers", abusers, weirdos like MTG or Caitlyn Jenner , you know, bad people (and there are plenty).

But when I hear about men in the ally space, it feels like I hear all about how awful and dangerous we are and that's it. And there's ALWAYS this group of guys willing to go along with it and point and go "yeah, we totally suck! You guys saying we don't are the real problem!" But, how is that motivating to anyone? It makes me upset, anyways. Maybe I'm just a big emotional baby, who knows?

Anyways, I'm blabbing. Bad habit of mine.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I would rather kill myself than vote for trump, who is a sexist, racist and fascist.

And I am with you. The boarder left is in denial that they are alienating especially young men with that behavior.

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[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 76 points 5 days ago (15 children)

God, the whole of Lemmy is such a meme right now; the majority of women voted Trump as well!

Lmao!...

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The majority of White women voted for him 53% to 45% (not sure what percent of those are in the evangelical christian demographic).

Women overall voted against him 53% to 45%. Funny how those numbers were the exact opposite. Anyway it was a smaller margin than Dems were hoping/expecting from women.

source: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think the ones who didn't vote for Harris are desperately rationalizing to blame Trump on somebody besides themselves.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

no, 20 million Americans withheld their votes.

that greasy orange fuck actually lost votes.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

2020 had some of the easiest voting rules in US history, with universal no excuse mail in.

Democrats were more likely to mail in votes than Republicans. So (largely Republican) states cracked down on mail in voting shortly after the election.

The participation plunge you're seeing is largely the result of that decision

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago

Yeah but only 39% of bears voted Trump.

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[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 82 points 5 days ago (21 children)

WHITE WOMEN CHOSE THE DUDE THIS ELECTION AND THE DUDE WAS TRUMP

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[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Check the statistics for white women :)

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 173 points 5 days ago (5 children)

When Harris was nominated, I told a friend of mine that my biggest fear was it was going to energize racists and sexists because she was black and a woman. I though she was great candidate, but the level of racism and sexism in this county is beyond insane.

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 84 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Well it's a good thing your worries were unfounded then because Trump got 72 million votes in 2020, and as of right now he's got those same 72 million votes in 2024. 10 million or so democrats sat out this election compared to 2020 and that's why Harris lost.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago

He should have lost a few million considering the sheer number of his supporters that earned Herman Cain awards.

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[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 35 points 5 days ago

It was actually because they gaslit people into believing that Biden was a competent candidate until like 3 months before the damn election.

THEN didn't even hold a primary.

And then let Kamala Harris completely train wreck the campaign and say shit like 18-24 year olds were stupid (notice how most of those votes from men for trump were around that age?) And sure, the video was taken out of context but she did say it and these dumb fucks didn't care what the context was when they see that clip droning on their TikToks and shit.

America does have a racism and sexism problem but to tell yourself that that is the only reason she lost this election would be lying to yourself in a very major way.

I did vote for her too, btw. First time I ever voted. But Jesus Christ the democrats just seem like they don't want to win at this point.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thankfully it looks like that did not happen. So far Trump got less votes than he did in 2020. It's just that Harris did not manage to get the democratic voter base off the couch.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

People keep saying this but they haven't finished counting the votes. In California alone only 55% of votes were counted and he had 4,000,000+ votes there. The remaining votes could easily put him past his 2020 total.

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[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

The "man or bear in the woods" question is obvious ragebait. Thinking people don't entertain hyperbolic hypotheticals that are proposed to sow divisive rhetoric.

The gender war is a psy-op proxy for the class war.

::: To be clear, I'm a proponent of market-socialism economically who wants a functional federal republic like we're supposed to have on paper. I am not a "tankie", nor do I want anything to do with them.

When I say "class war", I say we fight it with the ballot, and a gun if it gets ugly to the point of no recourse (that is still far away, thankfully).

I mean, what the fuck are people gonna do against Predator drones with Hellfires? Be vaporized as cannon fodder? We'd be gullible rubes for the whims of the "enlightened LeAdErS of the People's Revolution", that's what. :::

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Pretty much.

In hiking groups, certain people bring it up, and it's the kind of people you expect.

The rest of us just go hiking

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I think in this situation it is probably more important to look into why more than half the population chose Trump.

[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Or discourse like that could be why young men are choosing the right.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They're so wrong to do so in such a vindictive way.

... but that doesn't mean they're not doing it. People are petty, including men.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 75 points 5 days ago

That seems bang on average for the entire country. If anything that suggests to me that men in that age group are less susceptible to trumps influence since other age ranges of men were in the 60s and 70s

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 50 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean, it sounds to me like men also chose the bear. Why did they choose the bear, is it because they're stupid? Probably not, they likely just thought their odds were better with the bear.

Dropping the metaphor, and looking in the cold light of day, those young men saw a better future under Trumpler than Harris. Articles signaled this well before, and nothing was done to address it.

Will their future be better - probably not. Can they be made to think their future is better, that's a tough one. Remember, you can trick one group of people into thinking they have more rights by stripping the rights of those around them.

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[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 49 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just give up humans, you have no future, you are not viable as a species.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

That is women literally choosing the bear (by not voting or who voted Trump, same thing).

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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well, there's still 42% who voted for Harris. What's wrong with them?

[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 50 points 5 days ago (68 children)

Nothing is wrong with them, but I get not wanting to gamble with thos odds.

Especially when, according to the national park service, "when bear encounters do happen, they are most often nonviolent". So if you had to gamble...

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 21 points 5 days ago

If no woman will consent to a guy like that, he’ll just vote for the candidate who promises to abolish consent

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