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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Emperor to c/uk_politics
 

We are past midnight, so all campaigning is over. The polling stations open at 7:00 (and close at 22:00). So it's time for the voting thread.

It's trickier this year because of voter ID requirements but gov.uk have all the details. However, note this: "You can still use your ID even if it has expired." So an out-of-date passport, for example, will work as long as the name is the same and the photo still looks like you. Don't forget that there are other polling stations rules.

There have been problems in some areas with people getting their postal vote on time but if you haven't got yours and you aren't on your holidays, it's not too late. Details on what to do.

Tactical voting can make a difference in some places and there are a number of sites to help with this. They'll largely be similar but check a couple before committing:

If you want your vote to count you can try SwapMyVote.uk.

Other things you can do:

  • Offer lifts to people so they can get out and vote - contact your party of choice

If you have any other resources then throw them in below. If you have any questions then ask away and, hopefully, someone can rummage the answer up for you. edit: If I've cocked up, then let me know.

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[–] DrummXYBA 55 points 4 months ago (5 children)

First time voting today. Fuck the tories

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[–] addie 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wife's birthday tomorrow, and she wants rid of the Tories as a present. Fortunately, that's what I was going to get her anyway.

[–] Emperor 18 points 4 months ago

Best husband ever for organising this whole business. It becomes clear now that the Tory disarray is part of some massive years-long plan that would dwarf Palpatine's Grand Plan.

[–] GreyShuck 28 points 4 months ago

The tories have been incumbent for 116 years in my neck of the woods (the previous one was a whig). The surveys say that is likely to end this time. I am sooo looking forward to that.

[–] TIN 20 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Febrile atmosphere here, febrile.

Hoping that we can be rid of the tories today. More distant hope is for a change to the voting system...

[–] echodot 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

The problem here is that any government that wins an election is disinclined to change the system that resulted in their victory.

Reform definitely wouldn't do it.

Honestly think that the only way that we will get electoral reform is if Lib Dems become the official opposition and they really push Labour on it. The daft thing being that if they actually introduced electoral reform Labour would practically win every time, albeit with a smaller majority, not that it would make any difference to them.

[–] i_am_not_a_robot 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The latest YouGov poll actually has the Lib Dems as official opposition in one of their predictions. It's unlikely though as things need to go particularly well for them and bad for the Tories in most of the borderline seats. I'd love to see it happen!

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Let's go, tactical voting! ABCDEF: Anybody But the Conservatives, but Don't Ever Farage.

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[–] blackn1ght 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This assumes labour and the current parties would continue to exist as they are under PR.

[–] HumanPenguin 7 points 4 months ago

Honestly the UK political ideals would need to change.

I personally think fptp has damaged the UKs idea of political compromise. Looking at attitudes to brexit when it was won by people who had doffering ideas of what it ment.

And the EUs attitude to our red lines eve. Our own parliment could not agree on.

Our politicians all looked like stupid children.

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[–] mannycalavera 7 points 4 months ago

Labour aren't going to change the voting system. Unfortunately we have to wait for another hung parliament and then some more before we get representation.

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[–] mannycalavera 19 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I've already postal voted.... but work doesn't know that. Should I leave early claiming I need to line up to vote and go off to the pub instead? Lovely weather for it.

[–] Emperor 13 points 4 months ago

England expects that every man will do his duty... and naff off down the boozer given half the excuse.

[–] Technofrood 13 points 4 months ago

My polling station is the village pub

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[–] Blackmist 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't believe their hype. Get voting and make sure they're gone.

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[–] Emperor 17 points 4 months ago (4 children)

With TERFs voting Tory or Reform because if trans rights and Reform support being so high amongst young men I'm already done with asking people if they've voted as they aren't shy about disappointing you. Back in the day no-one but the most ardent Nazi would tell you they voted BNP.

[–] UKFilmNerd 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Catching up on James O'Brien episodes today and he mentions a poll that asked both sides what are the issues important to them.

In both Labour and the Tory results, transgender issues aren't shown. It's the media trying to whip up people in a frenzy.

[–] Emperor 9 points 4 months ago

It's definitely a Tory press angle for pushing the Culture War but it has cut through to some degree - the recent Guardian article heard from a number of women voting Tory or Reform because if trans rights. We just had someone post that Starmer can't define what a woman is.

[–] HumanPenguin 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The positive news. Voting reform is very unlikely to win more than 7 seats. But will split the right wing vote from Tories. Letting Lib Dems or even Labour win seats from the Tories.

They are where fptp works for the left for a change.

While Id def prefer a situation where a seat cannot be taken, with >60% wanting any other MP. Here it helps. While maybe convincing more voters, FPTP is shit.

[–] Lifebandit666 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've always worked factory jobs and have grown used to people showing their true colours at voting time. This year I'm in a different workplace that seems a bit more left leaning, but a few at the table at break time said they couldn't vote for Labour because they would take us back into the EU (I corrected them and told them that's a Tory bullshit and Starmer has outright rejected the idea).

They said that's fine but they still can't vote Labour and they were thinking about voting Reform.

My first instinct was to go on a rant about that mealy-mouthed frog-faced cunt with a french name that wants to stop foreigners crossing our border. Ask the cunt how Brexit went, twat!

Instead I said "Hey great, go for it, if you ain't voting Tory I don't give a flying fuck who you're voting for, it's not a Tory vote and that's all that matters to me."

I would get all thrombo at the last workplace with it's Boris-lovers, I've grown.

[–] Emperor 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I had to walk away from a young lad (first time voting) going:."yeah but Andrew Tate hasn't been convicted yet".

[–] Lifebandit666 8 points 4 months ago

Eugh, well done! We were all stupid little fuckers in the past at some point. God I was so full of my own self importance in my 20s it makes me cringe just thinking about it

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[–] UKFilmNerd 17 points 4 months ago

Hello everyone, please vote. Here's my tiny little bit of useful information. Even though voting closes at 10pm, if your in a queue leading up to to that time, you will still be allowed to vote.

Fingers crossed.

[–] PhobosAnomaly 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I took my eldest in with me to show how it all works, what the people to, what voting is, why it's important, why it's secret etc.

He looked entirely disinterested. Fair enough, but I was hoping it would take another thirty years before he got to that stage!

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[–] Monzcarro 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just voted for Labour. Need to get out the Tory MP who was sycophantic in her defence of Boris partying.

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[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Emperor 7 points 4 months ago

Got to love a spreadsheet.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 13 points 4 months ago
[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm canvassing for Labour all morning, voting in the afternoon, seeing Arcade Fire in the evening. So, it's going to be a good day!

[–] Emperor 7 points 4 months ago

And a busy one. Have fun.

[–] HumanPenguin 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Turnout.

Id be interested to hear how busy folks found their polling sration. Compared to past elections.

Mine is a hostorical tory safe seat. Predicted to go lib dem.

Turnout at 11am seemed about normal. No real queues 20 or so folks 2 puppies. Past genral elections were about the same. EU ref was notably more people.

[–] UKFilmNerd 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In terms of postal votes, it's estimated there will be around 10m in total, a 20% increase on 2019.

[–] HumanPenguin 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also a sizable % of voters. Given a 66m population.

Interesting that privatised Royal Mail is having issues delivering them on time. I'm sure I am just inventing conspiracies here. As I can't see Tories benefitting from it.

[–] UKFilmNerd 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Tories have already introduced ID for voter fraud that was non existent and taken away most of the power from the Electoral Commission. It wouldn't surprise me. 😆

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[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (5 children)

They open at 7:00, not 7:30.

[–] Emperor 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, and also comment if I cocked anything up.

Cheers - fixed.

[–] mannycalavera 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, and also comment if I cocked anything up.

Twelve years ago at the lights near the roundabout you failed to slow down to give that cyclist enough room on the left after exiting. As a result they had to hop the curb and when doing so they became upset and made a swear.

Oh oh oh, you mean about the post? Right, nah looks great thanks for this. Good job 😁.

[–] Emperor 11 points 4 months ago

I made all the correct apologetic gestures as required by the Highway Code.

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[–] echodot 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

We've got a few more hours left. I reckon that at least time for one more classic screw up.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago

Starmer will say he hates dogs, I reckon.

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[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

13 seats for Reform feels like it would be more than a foot in the door for Faragism if the exit poll is accurate for them. I hope Labour will be able to provide effective counters to this.

Of course it's also possible that with suddenly gaining MPs in double digits, the inexperienced party might keep tripping over itself before it can trip anyone else.

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[–] IrregularChore@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

My driving licence had my old address on it but was still accepted as photo ID, In case people were worried about that.

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[–] sirico 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cons looking at 130ish seats let the blood games begin!

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

130 too many, but I'll take it!

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[–] sirico 7 points 4 months ago

I want wall-to-wall Schadenfreude streams of each Tory's last day, walking out of Westminster bonus points if Steve Bray is the dj

[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago

Here we go!

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

i still think the shy tory/reform voter factor will be bigger than they think. predicting at best a minority government at worst a hung parliament.

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