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The attacks have been able to disrupt shipping and keep the U.S. and its allies tied down, frustrating the Navy’s decades-old mission of keeping open the region’s critical sea lanes.

American military says it has spent about $1 billion fighting Ansar Allah to support Israel's Gaza War. It has conducted more than 450 strikes and intercepting 200 drones and missiles.

U.S. officials worry that the conflict is simply not sustainable.

“Their supply of weapons from Iran is cheap and highly sustainable, but ours is expensive and our logistics tails are long. We are playing whack-a-mole, and they are playing a long game.”

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[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 123 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Though largely ineffective, the Houthi attacks have been able to disrupt shipping and keep the U.S. and its allies tied down,

thinking-about-it

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 74 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

I mean this comes from a complete misunderstanding of the objective of the Houthi attacks. Yes they have been "ineffective" at directly hitting a NATO military ship, but that's not the primary goal here, the goal is to disrupt trade with Israel and their allies, and on that basis the attacks have been very successful. It's always a big mistake to view the success of military operations from a military standpoint only. That kind of logic is what makes the US think they could've won the Vietnam war or beat the Taliban if they just fought for longer or fought differently. Wars are complex multifaceted endeavours, you can't just look at the direct military aspect. Many have won the direct military battle but lost the actual war. Real life is not a multiplayer shooting game where having a better K/D or holding down a certain objective means that you win the war.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not an innocent misunderstanding, it's intentional propaganda. If you redefine your opponent's goal to something it's not, when your opponent doesn't achieve that goal you can claim victory.

Remember all that "Kiev in 3 days" bullshit that came from a US officer and was spread all over the internet?

[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

God I still see that regularly. Like every single usual suspect subreddit has at least one person doing the "Day 943 of the 3 day Special Military Operation smuglord "

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Real life is not a multiplayer shooting game where having a better K/D means that you win the war

Funny enough, as you may know, the American empire made it a priority in Vietnam to inflict as many casualties on the Vietnamese as possible. Usually this led to civilian massacres as soldiers try to keep up with demand of their superiors to kill as many people as possible.

And to this day, when you bring up that the US lost Vietnam, people cope and screech "uhhhh BUT WE KILLED 3 MILLION AND ONLY LOST 58,000 TROOPS frothingfash :smuglord: "

It's incredible and scary how normalized casual brutality is brushed off in the West™ when "our" team does it in a war.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

in the West™

Disturbing that this really does apply across the board; I recall explaining to Western European players (or trying to actually) that Russia and China were necessary balancing powers against us cause otherwise the global South would look like Cambodia, Vietnam and Iraq, and they were seriously trying to defend the mass slaughter, thinking 'they were run by brutal dictators' is a defense of mass killings in the scale of millions. If the channel didn't put a restriction on how often you post, I would've asked how that justifies mass slaughtering people,but honestly I don't think I was going to change anyone's mind who thinks what we did in Cambodia and Vietnam was defensible

[–] Voidance@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

As Clausewitz famously said, War is when you try to get the highest number

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

I don’t think “real life” is in the US’ DNA.

[–] Darth_Reagan@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Stellaris' players almost universally complain that rival nations don't concede during wars if you defeat their fleets and space stations, but don't take any planets and don't knock out their allies. Its comical that people are upset that imperialism does work how they wished it worked, and instead operates somewhat realistically where nations don't concede just because you knock out their militarized space navy. They fight to the dirty end on the ground, especially if they have friends back them up.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

"We only lost because we're too nice to use nukes!"

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 64 points 3 months ago

man I wish I were as ineffective as Ansar Allah

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago

Task failed successfully

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 102 points 3 months ago (2 children)

frustrating the Navy’s decades-old mission of keeping open the region’s critical sea lanes.

It’s literally so easy lol. Stop funding genocide and they stop blowing your shit up

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They should put you in charge of an aircraft carrier

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

So that Ansar Allah will have an aircraft carrier?

[–] dumpster_dove@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

But that would frustrate the century-old mission

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 77 points 3 months ago (3 children)

“Their supply of weapons from Iran is cheap and highly sustainable, but ours is expensive and our logistics tails are long."

How can they understand this in this context but absolutely not when talking about Ukraine or China?

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lockheed said their next generation hyper tactical liberty ballistic precision missile will cost $36,000,000 each because it’s too sophisticated to explain. We have no choice but to accept their price

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is a very well understood and planned for weakness you absolute dolls, you nimrods. If it takes a $500k or more missile to take out a 10k or less drone, that drone being shot down is still a win.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A french naval officer was quoted at the beginning of Prosperity Guardian as saying "if you use a $5m missile to shoot down a $5 thousand drone, then in fact it is your missile which has been shot down by the drone."

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 3 months ago
[–] Lester_Peterson@hexbear.net 75 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Did Yemen ever learn why the US doesn’t have free healthcare?

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 51 points 3 months ago

I think they did when they shot down the reaper drone. Then they expressed sorrow for the American people because they said the government will prioritize creating a new drone instead of using the funds to treat sick people lol

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago

Multiple times, but it wasn't very effective as Ansar Allah have developed many countermeasures to reduce the effectiveness of airstrikes, due to being under a much more intense Saudi Arabian led aerial bombardment for nearly a decade. At most the US took out their air defences for a little bit, and hit some above ground munitions.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 61 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like they've invented a new form of sea-based guerilla warfare and good on them for it.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 42 points 3 months ago

Insurance warfare

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 59 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If Ansar Allah have found out why we don't have healthcare, any chance they can tell us what that is?

[–] LeopardShepherd@hexbear.net 56 points 3 months ago

My enemy keeps throwing pebbles at my house and I'm blocking them with flaming suitcases with a million dollars in each. Anyway, can you help me figure out why I can't afford to send my kids to the doctor?

[–] lps@lemmy.ml 59 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The part I love the most is that the US is taking such a huge financial hit to defend against relatively inexpensive attacks. It seems so fitting that the worlds richest nation can be bled like this.

[–] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's funny to me that the media will get people to laugh at these weapons and not see that it's a well thought out tactic. The US is going to double down on expensive equipment before anything changes. They'll have the most expensive and sophisticated weaponry, but they won't be able to afford to use it

[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

They've learnt nothing from ukraine and learnt nothing from this. Americans will be in for a rude surprise when they fight China

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Indeed, it seems that the entire military doctrine US has relied upon is being invalidated by modern technology.

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 months ago

lol basically, it's absolutely incredible to me that these people think they can take on China

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 months ago

this is evergreen

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 months ago

CITATIONS NEEDED

lol

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

The attacks don’t even have to sink a ship to take effect. The insurance cost alone is enough to cause detours around Africa.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

excuse me but Ansarallah has a navy you can see the boats in this video here DEFCON 1 at the Gates of Grief

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago

We love our beautiful boaters, don't we?a-little-trolling

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 months ago
[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 months ago

Damn, the Krackkker Capital needs to step up it's propaganda game if this is what the competition's look like. That shit is dope.

[–] liberaldeathsquads@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

To quote their slogan

God is the Greatest

Death to America

Death to Israel

A Curse Upon the Jews

Victory to Islam

Four out of five ain’t bad, this is what we have critical support for.

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago
[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 32 points 3 months ago

❌️✔️✔️❌️❌️

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

I love how the US military had this casual racism where they thought that just because the Saudis are dark skinned, that was what caused the Saudis to basically lose their war in Yemen, and that now that the whites would be fighting them, they'd win

[–] skeletorsass@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

سُـبْحانَ الله