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The fact that people are ok with this blows my fucking mind. Corps literally normalised being buttfucked.
I'm pretty sure most people who are doing this are trying, in their own way, to make a point.
It wasn't about "national security". It was about a large digital meeting place where ideas could be shared, or feelings and frustrations at their government could be seen and felt by others who felt the same. Big Brother doesn't like that, unless it is on US Corporate Approved Social Media, where they can promptly shut you down, or get their algorithm to put post with specific keywords out of the eyes of as many as possible.
So, instead of creating actual data privacy laws, as they should have, they decided to attack TikTok, because Mark Zuckerburg got in front of congress during whatever case it was that brought his lizard ass in the room (maybe the Cambridge Analytica scandal?) and said that TikTok was more dangerous than his own platform.
There you go. It was never about "national security", as there were much better ways to handle that than banning one single app.
They did write data privacy laws when they banned TikTok. Read HR 815 Division H and Division I of 118th Congress, which is just HR 7520 and 7521 bundled into a larger bill.
The original text of HR 7520 is:
Definition of Foreign Adversary:
Which states:
But I think it also includes a few other countries, idk if this text is up to date.
I... don't really care about a foreign government having my data. Like, Id rather no one does, but the US government is the only one with direct impact on my life personally. Who gives a fuck about China. I will literally never go there.
I don't care if you don't mind having harm done to you, the entirety of the USA would suffer from continued data collection by the CCP. The entirety of the USA would suffer from more "pig butchering" scams, more industry hacks and subterfuge, more US Military installations being mapped out. That's all ignoring their impact on politics.
So stop bothering us here and go screw around on RedNote if thats what you think.
Doing the the thing in direct opposition to what an authority is demanding is like a trauma response or something.
it's also a good idea when the authority is being a piece of shit and grew too comfortable in their position.
moving your data from your domestic authoritarian to a foreign authoritarian isn't the gotcha you think it is
The data is stored on US soil, so whatever they are able to gather, the US government is allowing it. Which means… all social media. So, ban all social media then if it’s such a risk, right? Or.. I don’t know.. maybe make an actual data privacy law so no one can steal and hoover up your precious data?
It is if you want to stick it to the domestic authoritarian
China was caught logging every keystroke through this. It's why some revamped it's permissions a while ago.
In China it shows people how to be good, science, technology., education, nature.
Here it show kids to eat tide pods.
It's a propaganda method for China.
Yes, surely no other apps log keystrokes. Certainly not Gboard!
It's irrelevant whether other apps do it -- it's still wrong.
See, to me, it’s not irrelevant. Either make a blanket data privacy law, or shut the fuck up.
Right? If logging keystrokes is "wrong", then ban that! I've never downloaded TikTok in my life but this entire thing is so transparently manufactured.
Of course not, Google does no evil. Everyone knows that.
Does anybody have that image of Google as Lionel hutz' advertisement from the Simpsons?
Don't be evil?
No, Selling Data!
Yeah. Lemmy users should spend a bit of time deconstructing why tik tok makes them so angry. There's a bit to unpack there. Not that it isn't trash.
People are disgusted by the idea that one random person could track their every move and read everything they write.
Unless that person is employed at a large corporation.
I used to date a Google employee. They had a Signal chat where they shared screenshots of funny or interesting shit they saw on the user accounts.
And many abused their access to spy on ex-partners and the like.
Its actually worse than that.
I've recently met an increasing number of Gen Alpha / Zoomers that all have all their friends in some kind of family location tracking app, so they all know each other's locations at all times, and actually you're a rude asshole if you think that's weird.
They also think you're rude if you don't have an iPhone. What a weird generation.
oh fuck
That's horrific. I hope your relationship ended amicably?
Not really, she caught me Binging someone else.
I forgot which community this was lmao
I am still angry at Facebook for normalizing using your real name. That eroded a lot of basic security practices.
Now little 7yos share mommy's credit card in YouTube comments.
I used to be disgusted that people didn't seem to care that they were risking their own privacy and national security to boot. But then I remembered that our own government won't do anything to keep our individual privacy in check from corporations. So as long as that's the case, I don't see why anyone should give a fuck. The government did this to themselves.
We underestimated how little people trust the government compared to how much they hate china
And hence EU and UK regulations are so fucking needed. GDPR and legal requirements for companies to follow is a god sent.
Got a cold email? &hit them with that sweet chat gbt copy pasta!
Wait what? Can you give me more details?
Sorry I'm too American because I bend over and accept corporate penetration.
So, company cannot buy your data. A company also needs a valid reason to hold your data. Also, company needs to have your consent to have this data, ie, you need to interact with them.
So if someone messages you out of the blue, someone you never dealt with... How did they get your info? How do they have a valid reason to contact you if you never dealt with them before? And why would they have your permission to contact you if you never gave it to them?
Answer is, they're using your info illegally. The copy pasta is basically giving them notice to remote all your records and if they don't comply you'll be reporting them.
Fun fact - GDPR applies to EU citizens wherever they are, so as an American you can ask to get your data removed based on GDPR and even though it doesn't apply to you, they will often not bother to check and do it.
Or, you know, claim they deleted the data, which is the best you'll get nowadays.