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The scandals are all about Mancini, so probably doesn’t change much from Pep’s perspective

He's not the one that broke the rules but I'm sure he's connected enough within the club to know at least some of what they've done. Plus, with Mancini being paid via all sorts of channels, it's hard not to believe Guardiola has also benefited from their rule breaking as well. I don't think anything will come back to him as even if he's found to have been paid from various sources it'll probably go to his agent, but he definitely knows they've cheated.

His legacy would be done for if they're guilty as every single trophy won would be deemed won through cheating. He'd surely need to resign from a club that, according to him at least, told him they're completely innocent and it's merely his great leadership that caused all of their success. Any morals left in him would surely cause him to not want to be taken down with them.

Yes it would. That plus the referee payments Barcelona is accused of would seriously tarnish his legacy.

Would ruin his legacy...there's no way he didn't know what the club was doing

It would make all his achievements at city null and void. If you can't win within the rules, you are effectively a cheat.

He'd walk away unscathed to the next club with an endless pot of oil money.

We all knew they were cheating even before he got there and he was part of various scandals, being it with referees, corruption, players, shady deals and so on, even from his time at Barcelona and even form his time as a player.

I never considered him the best manager. He is the one willing to do anything it takes and to make his hands dirty, yes.

Great manager for sure, but I’ve always found the notion that he’s in the same bracket as the all time greats kind of odd. He might end his career winning more trophies than Ferguson did, but he’s not on that level.

I remember him saying when all this was starting that he would leave if he thought they were cheating. It's been obvious since they did cheat and it was only on technicalities they got away the first time. So his legacy regarding his honor, integrity is tainted for sure. Same with players.

Hes not the one who cheated, he is part of the cheating.

Pep is one of the best managers in the world. Thats why man city need to cheat the money so they can afford the best.

Its like haaland. He still scored all those goals, even if the finances used to build the team were unfair.

There's no denying his quality as a coach. It would certainly taint his Man City career though.

Heavily imo

It would void everything that was achieved during the relevant periods. Financial doping is what it is, doping. If you cheated to win in a sport, you didn't win, and you may as well have not played at all.

In theory, it would depend on whether or not it can be proven that he was aware of and/or responsible for any of the violations.

In reality, it will be guilt by association. His ardent supporters will claim innocence, and his detractors will claim he should have known enough to stop it.

I am biased but why would this taint anything?
The club have been questioned, not the manager or the players.

The manager and players still did everything they did last season, regardless of the money within the club. It has nothing to do with the individual achievements but the achievements of the club.

Not at all.

He didnt actively cheat. He just worked with what he got and what the board gave him. His tactical skills arent in question and his job isnt to question the owner and how they do stuff.

Exactly like the players. De Bruyne achieved everything with skill and not because he bribed the ref or cheat in any other way. He and his agents made a deal with the board. How they pay him isnt his concern.

Wouldn’t impact what he did to me.. spent similar to Man Utd in the same period and look at the difference!

The one question mark for me over Pep has always been that he's only ever managed teams with a massive advantage over the rest of the league.

At Barca he had Messi and possibly the greatest playmaking team ever assembled. At Bayern.... it's obvious, and so is City.. Even at Barca B, they were normally either in 2nd or 3rd tier and that year were in 3rd tier, so were one of the best teams in the league they were in.

At City he inherited one of the best teams in the league and underperformed until he got 200m worth of fullbacks.

He's never done anything like winning the CL with Porto.

Out coaches every manager. Not sure how you can say it’s only the financial side that have made city, city. Look what he’s done with players like Ake, Stones etc. easily the best manger in prem since Fergie, no question.

It doesn’t matter, no matter what people have already decided to asterisk city.

On every post on here about city people already call them cheats and say they don’t care about city’s success.

The legacy will be exactly the same because people have already decided how they feel.

If there guilty people will just go “finally”

If there found not guilty it will be “corruption”.

Then the circle continues and the next club will be blamed because there all cheating in varies degrees (if you didn’t know)

All of the titles already have an asterisk above them, they should be null & void when charged.

I live in USA and city is my club I support since I watched the all or nothing doco in like 2017, also I really like KDB. So I will need to find a new club to support because I have no affiliation with anything in England 😂 I do like watching Nottingham forest too

Not sure about the effect on Pep, but he is and always be the prominent piece of the “MCFC rise and fall” story yet to be written and told.

How would it impact his legacy at all?

He’s entire legacy is that he takes the richest team in the league that’s loaded with stars and is extremely successful with them. That is exactly what he did at Bayern and Barcelona.

Just because Man City cheated to be the richest team in the league doesn’t change how we perceive Pep’s performance. We already knew they were the richest team in the league and cheated to get there before Pep joined the club.

I think he will be happy. So happy. So, so happy. You will see.

It wouldn't. He would still be the best manager in the history of the sport. No serious person would stop rating him, because that doesn't even make sense. Are De Bruyne and Haaland suddenly invalid too? Only people who already hate him, like r/soccer and r/PremierLeague, Brits, Prem fanboys and Madrid fanboys, they would obviously be happy and say his legacy is now gone and nonsense like that. That's expected, that's how team sports and humans work. Rivalry and tribalism and so on.

There's a reason why idiots and experts have the opposite opinion on everything. Because they're idiots lol. All the actual football experts in football like the millions of managers, coaches, assistants, players, football directors, scouts, analysts, journalists, etc already consider him the revolutionary best manager of all time, because they're extremely knowledgeable on football and his coaching and tactical mind. They're not going to change their opinion at all. They don't care about stuff like this.

If you're actually that level of stupid however then you also have to stay Messi's legacy is gone because of the Barca ref case. Which would expose how silly your opinions are. Messi has already showed the world he's the best player of all time, just like Pep has already showed the world he's the best manager of all time.

It'll never happen

Once a cheat is always a cheat. But people tend to have short memories.

Was it City or Pep who broke the rules?

If it him who did then too bad, but if he did not, in my books he'd still remain the GOAT that he is.

If they were found guilty of all (they won’t) then he won’t have much of a legacy in the premier league.

Still the best. No matter what happens with the charges he did manage and coach those teams to an insanely high level. His actual coaching, tactics and development of the game still happened.

His legacy of a chequebook manager, wouldn’t change

Looks like no one care. Barca’s PR in the 2000’s was too good. They convinced (or to be exact: brainwashed) that they are the best, the light, the good football. Barca is more than a club, Pep invented the football, Messi in an angel and et cetra.

The brainwashing so strong people doesn’t even capable to hear that something is t correct. We saw the ref always helping them but no one care cuz bottom line is they “deserved” the win cuz they are the best and we all just need to say thank god for witnessing that wonder.

So Pep is “the humble” as opposed to Muriniho. Barca and City are corrupt but it’s ok, cus he asked the management and they told him it’s ok. It’s ok cus he is the best among the corrupt clubs.

Downvote me now if u are brainwashed and think Barca not corrupt, City are ok and the World Cup in Qatar was pure.

Pep Guardiola*

If found guilty????? City are guilty as fuck corrupt cunts