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cross-posted from: https://social.fossware.space/post/123876

In the few short hours since I started using #Threads, #DuckDuckGo has already blocked over 200 data tracking attempts. These include things like "headphone status" and "screen density."

Trackers, trackers and ol' Zucc's roboface galore.

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[–] omgnvq@feddit.nl 92 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Not sure just mildly infuriating πŸ˜…

Also infuriating: the number of my friends who have installed this shitty app πŸ˜‘

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

And their justification of it.

Edit: since for whatever reason i couldn't reply to @BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social, i'll edit my comment here:

I have no issue with the difference in opinion, but idk, if giving up way more privacy than it needed to run the app doesn't seems bad to you, i have nothing much to add 😐

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[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I just cannot fathom why people would see the shortest that Musk has made of Twitter and think the best solution is to go to a clone made by Zuckerberg. Have they learned nothing?

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

Because fundamentally, people really don't care about all that much. They want a simple social network that's vaguely pleasant to use, has the people and content they're looking for, and otherwise stays out of their way. They certainly don't care about Musk's random crusade du jour against the evil woke libs.

Nor do they particularly care about targeted advertising so long as it remains vaguely unobtrusive and their data isn't constantly leaked in ways that directly harm them. Zuck, for all his many flaws, is smart enough to know that the single biggest thing he can do is to largely stay out of the way.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ptz@dubvee.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not just lazy. Wilfully ignorant and, dare I say, largely stupid as well.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because people just submit it. He doesn't know why. They just trust him. Dumb Fucks.

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[–] stackPeek@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I hate about this is that they say things like "Try the best to protect users' privacy" etc then do shits like this

[–] Ronno@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Well, they need to know your device rotation to serve you the perfect ads! /s
Seriously, I wouldn't mind them knowing a thing or two about me, when I'm using their services. But tracking everything, just because they can, is just obnoxious. If you would translate this to the real world, you would definitely get arrested when you would stand on the corner of the street, noting down everything you see, every dimension/detail of every person walking by. You would be labeled "creep". But if Facebook does it, governments go like: You can build your new data center right here, don't mind the measly peasants that currently live in the village nearby

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No wonder the app is not available in Europe, there is no way that list passes GDPR :P

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Facebook I'm only comfortable using inside a browser for this reason, and not with Chrome either. Something proper like Firefox that can block third party cookies and run it in a container automatically so it can't follow you around. I need to contain the filth.

[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't even type fa in by Firefox without the Facebook containers extension. And yeah, chrome can jam it

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[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Christ on a bike, does it want my gym locker combination as well?

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

No but it needs access to your front camera so it can record your face before and after using threads. They want to see if their engagement algorithms made you mad so then they can tell it's working

[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Stop giving them ideas

[–] jdevsd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] alligatorSoup 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Skyrkazm@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Other data" that it doesn't specify. What's next, my shoe size and sleep schedule?

[–] Pika@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if it has access to health it likely has sleep schedule already

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[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

System volume? Lmaooooo wtf

[–] WizardTree@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are clearly deciding if they need to start producing hearing aids

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Potentially, and Ive also seen it used for ads. The first time Spotify noticed me mute my system and paused the ad, I became enraged. Its's a step too far. Luckily with external speakers I can just mute at the speaker level instead.

[–] schwim@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're using Spotify on Windows, consider installing a system ad blocker like Adguard for Windows and route Spotify traffic through it. It will strip the ads.

If you're using Spotify on Android, consider installing the app through X-Manager, which will give you an ad-free experience.

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[–] Midnight_Ice@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

That's like that Black Mirror episode where the people are required to keep their eyes open and focused on the screen for everything

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[–] evirac@vlemmy.net 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

he's literally collecting device orientation data for whatever reason

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because to find the needle in the haystack, you first need a haystack. Until you know which needle you want to use, you need loads of haystacks which could have the needle in it you need.

Also, hoarders gotta hoard. (and bastards collect all they can get away with, and more, lots more)

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, they probably don't need all of that info right now, but you never knew when something suddently becomes valuable. Also, the more data they have, the easier to identify you without any trackers like cookies.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically something like this:

"The algorithm suggests people who have their phone in landscape more than 28% of the time are more likely to vote for party A. Convincing them not to vote for party A is hard, so we'll convince them there's no point voting or make it harder for them to vote, by targeting these users with ads which make them question if their vote matters."

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[–] Niello@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's probably more meaningful to ask at this point what data can he collects that he's not collecting.

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[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The reason is device fingerprinting to track you with

[–] LordDemecrius83@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What's next? Zucc is gonna ask for my dick size?

[–] nodimetotie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

He can probably already predict it from other data with 99% accuracy

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago

I bet that's unironically gold for certain advertisers.

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[–] tracyspcy@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

lol such app should have disclaimer similar to cigarettes packs

[–] chordata@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does he want my SSN, bank card number, and mother's maiden name whilst he's at it?

[–] Ragnell@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

The app does request permissions for financial info.

[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Jfc man, thanks for the hot tip on the ddg tracker protection! I've been using ddg for a while now on the phone and have out some effort into curating apps so most of what I have is private/secure/open source, but I still have a bunch of things like the Netflix app that I know are sketchy. I've just gone through every app I have and confirmed things like Jerboa, VLC, antenna pod, etc are all free of trackers. The real fun surorises though were my bank app and my state government services app, which are each on about 45 tracking attempts across 36 categories. The services one even uses two seperste tracker companies. That's super fun!

Fuck I'm glad I have this ddg add on now :D

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[–] Fillet@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

zucc zucc in the butt

[–] Darkhoof@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This will completely empty out Twitter. It's just like that scene on Godzilla when both monsters are fighting and the science dude just says to "let them fight".

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, kinda. The crowd that cares move to Mastodon, that crowd that chases moves to Threads.

Now, there is still value in Twitter as long as content creators and companies post there. When we see companies pull out and content creators en masse setting up shop somewhere else the end is coming. Huge communites that depend on being huge rarely if ever can return from a real downwards spiral.

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[–] drifty@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do I block trackers like you have?

[–] letraset@feddit.dk 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Install the Duck Duck Go browser, and sign up for the "App Tracking Protection" beta in the settings. Once you are enabled for the beta. Enable it in the settings. It acts like a VPN on your device.

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[–] stormageddon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Damn, just straight up stealing other people’s content. Very cool

Original post: https://writing.exchange/@kreig/110664764474921792

Original poster: https://writing.exchange/@kreig

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