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[–] thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 6 days ago (4 children)

From my time on Lemmy. There seems to be a lot of American propaganda on here from people.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I see a lot of Chinese propaganda as well

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And Russian and North Korea for some reason

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 days ago (5 children)

The amount of people here who will try to convince you that NK is some sort of paradise here is insane.

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[–] verstra@programming.dev 19 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Do you think actual sponsored accounts/bots or just indoctrinated people?

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

100% just indoctrinated people, lemmy is too small to catch anyone's attention.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You tend to have very extreme views, which sometimes get heavily downvoted. It’s convenient for you to blame that on “American indoctrination.”

And as you say, Lemmy is too small. So maybe it’s just that a lot of people here do not agree with your views.

[–] wieson@feddit.org 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Even for people, who are not Leninist/Stalinist or similar, it is noticeable.

From my perspective (being not from the US) us-american arrogance is very present on lemmy.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 5 days ago

us-american arrogance is very present ~~on lemmy~~ literally everywhere.

ftfy

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[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Both, but there was definitely blatant astroturfing after Biden withdrew and Kamala became the nominee.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think we just have a surprising amount of political staffers in Lemmy. The bulk does seem to be wealthy people living in suburbs. Look at how the biggest groups are people self hosting thousands and thousands of dollars of equipment.

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[–] Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 6 days ago

yeah but there's tankies too, so it cancels out

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Sometimes I don't know if it's propaganda or some inferiority complex because I've seen some propaganda from my country (MX) and if I try to go against it I get downvoted constantly (a lot less since I joined an instance that blocked ml, grad and hex) by people adamant into telling me how they lived here for a while, they have family here or how I am ignorant about that country, like... Bitch, everyone in my family has lived here for 3 generations at least, don't come here to tell me how things work when I have to deal with the consequences of a kakistocracy that keeps shitting on everything.
A lot of the fediverse users just have to be right when it comes to politics... And vaping, don't you dare have questions or doubts about vaping because they get mad.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago
[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Dude. The Russian propaganda flows freely around here.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You don't have to interact with .ml instances, you know?

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you think it's contained within one instance then you are the exact type of mark they are after.

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[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dont worry, if you put propoganda of opposite polarity together they cancel eachother out. /s

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

I believe in viewing as much propaganda as possible, because it helps you better see and understand it. No country is acting in our self-interest as a species right now. It is interesting what different people are allowed to say/not say on different apps. (My goal for this year is to learn enough Turkish to get on the Turkish web and better understand the weird cult that doesn’t get along with Erdoğan - they run lots of charter schools in the US for some reason.)

The fediverse is nice, but is never going to be mainstream. It’s not designed to be addicting, because that isn’t its purpose. Maybe it is for the best to have these small holdouts where you can have something analogous to the early internet - where saying “suicide” or “kill” or talking about sensitive topics doesn’t mean your post will never be seen. These small spaces won’t be bought and destroyed.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 28 points 6 days ago (3 children)

does Fediverse have a short form video content platform? cuz that's what people really care about these days

(also side note, we all really should avoid or limit short form video content consumption...)

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago

I believe Pixelfed Loops is the only one currently, it's actually not half bad, apart from how barebones and stuttery the app is, which isn't a big deal since the issues are only occasional.

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago

I haven't checked it out yet but "loops" is supposed to be that

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I don't understand it at all. I find it infuriating. I need long videos to play in the background while I work. I can't get anything done with this short crap. Maybe that's the point..

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Short-form videos, like many things in modern society (e.g. many video games) are essentially just a Skinner Box. You scroll, watch the video, get a hit of pleasure, and then the video automatically replays. That cues you to scroll. Repeat. It's easy to get stuck in that loop, especially if you already are struggling with executive dysfunction and can't find motivation/pleasure in ordinary activities.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 6 days ago

I guess I just don't get the hit of pleasure from it. I feel like I'm just getting into whatever it is and then it blue-balls me.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago

I mean, that's just two different purposes of two different formats.

Short form content is not made to be played in the background while you work, nor is it made for intricate and detailed analysis or essays. It's made to have something occupy your mind during short breaks like toilet or smoke break or while waiting for the bus or something.

Long and short form content don't compete but compliment with each other. If you don't like one or the other, that's totally fine, then you're just not part of the target audience.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

We should form our own propaganda. Not as a counterpoint, but as part of a wider fediverse identity.

But to successfully do this without being grouped together with one of the more mainstream platforms, it will have to be one so far removed from established axis' of alignments:

  • Impossible to place on left vs right.
  • Impossible to compared with authoritarianism vs democracy
  • Cannot be tied to a specific geopolitical agenda
  • cannot align with a specific country's interests

How about this: "Sasquatch did 9/11 to distract us from the fact that Big Farming puts nutrients in our food, and the Dutch lgbtq communities are the only one who can save us"

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[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Impossible to place on left vs right

Not possible unfortunately 😅

What you've come up with there would be considered "left wing" 😂

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[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago

Linux propaganda 😎👉

[–] Internetexplorer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

You can still have your comment censored/removed.

I don't see how this is any different from Reddit

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

Not that lemmy isnt free, but just about every instance aside from .world is very left wing, and even here on world just about everyone hates right leaning people.

That being said, you should look up the election posters of the German „die partei”. Their posters, especially the ones regarding Nazis, really vibes with me

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[–] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago (5 children)

The UX here needs to drastically improve for more people to see it as an viable alternative.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yes and no, you still have admins here, just like on Reddit, you can get locked out of interacting with thousands of people at the whim of your instance's admin and the only recourse you'll have is to join another one instead...

[–] Zombie 15 points 6 days ago (19 children)

"The only recourse you'll have" is the whole point. You have no recourse on Reddit. There is no other Reddit server. There are many Lemmy servers, all over the world, with very different views and policies.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago
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