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Devide

verb

Obsolete form of divide.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 61 points 2 weeks ago
[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

First you need to stop money from systematically flowing to the top or that dividing is only going to be a temporary measure.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'd argue there should be a flat out cap on wealth. Nobody should have 500 billion dollars. Not sure what it should be, but somewhere under 500 billion.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Would be nice, would still require a revolution.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

You can have a soft cap with higher taxes as wealth goes up.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To name a few:

  • the classic riot, violence and/or revolution
  • the coup
  • organizing through unions and have general strikes until things change
  • sustained peaceful protest
  • voting
  • switching to a different (underground) economic system
  • massive emigration

All come with some serious downsides of course.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

or to sum it up: socialism

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

Would require either revolution or threat of it to pass to a meaninful degree.

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[–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not "their" money. It's our communal wealth, stolen and privatised

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's 100% their money. They control its rules, and it's designed to make them rich at our expense. Their money is part of how they steal our wealth.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost 18 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The rich will just come up with clever ways to get paid that avoids paying tax.

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[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Isn't that what taxation pretty much does? Takes money and redistributes it?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not in the US at the federal level. Taxes are an anti inflationary device when dealing with a sovereign currency. It's the last step of the fiscal year. Step one is literally printing money, step two is distribution of those funds, step three is to allow the money to circulate between businesses and people, and then step four at the end of the year is to levy taxes to combat inflation. They used to literally burn the dollars they collected, now they just zero out an entry in a ledger.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

but how will we pay for <anything that's not increased military spending>???

talk about social services and taxes are like a bake sale, talk about funding war and it's what you describe

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's more due to political will, than the economics of the system

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

oh competely agreed, I'm just pointing out the dishonest framing by politicians and pundits

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Ostensibly, but if you ask any billionaire about it they'll just suppress a laugh

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[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, but I'll do the dividing. Just trust me on this one

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[–] MrMobius@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't that the definition of taxation and redistribution of wealth?

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes but if we can't spell divide I'm not sure I'd hold out hope for nuanced or accurate political commentary.

[–] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What have we got to loose?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We half nothing too loose but our chain’s.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I had multiple involuntary physical reactions to that sentence.

You win.

[–] HeurtisticAlgorithm9 5 points 2 weeks ago
[–] MrMobius@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

No need to shame people for their spelling. You never know, the person in question might not be a native english speaker or could have dislexia.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Stop letting them borrow against it.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, no, no. Just like a tax on unrealized gains is a bad idea because of how much it would royally fuck up the stock market, including every 401(k). What they need to do instead is tax the ways used by the extremely wealthy to utilize their gains without technically realizing them, even if that sometimes means taxing debt (aka treating it as income when they borrow against it and taxing accordingly).

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, changing the status quo is going to require some sacrifice. But we have more to gain by seizing their wealth than we do by protecting our crumbs.

[–] badcommandorfilename@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone in this thread should support an inheritance tax

It is not a "death tax" it's a tax on unearned, undeserved income

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Come on man you can’t even spell divide

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Devide

verb

Obsolete form of divide.

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I came here to lead, not to read!

[–] Mr_Blott 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's gold, not lead

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

But their nephew’s painting on the wall is worth a million bucks.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's better to jail them, what's the point of having money in bank accounts if you can't access it?

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, the same people who couldn't get past the DNC to get Bernie nominated are certainly going to ge able to redistribute all the wealth.

[–] Schal330@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How about capping the amount they can earn above their lowest paid employee? For them to rise they have to take everyone with them

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

They'd just 'devide' up their businesses into a chain of symbiotic entities defined by paygrade. Then the executive level can enrich itself insulated from us front line grunts.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Or to be realistic, maximum ten times more.

Let people dream a bit!

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