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[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 71 points 2 days ago (5 children)

~~America~~ Ignorant, selfish pricks, stopped using headphones.

Let's be real. You have to be pretty self absorbed to not realize how ignorant it is to walk around playing your music out loud or having a conversation on speakerphone instead of putting the damn phone to your ear.

And its not just flights. Its busses, restaurants, waiting rooms, forest trails.

My mother does the speakerphone thing but she's also half deaf from a lifetime of loud blue collar work. It's never as clear cut as you think

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh there's an easy solution. Talk loudly right next to someone carrying on a conversation out loud on the phone.

[–] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Join the conversation.

[–] Case@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some office environments too.

Last place I was at, I worked nights pretty much solo. If my wireless earbuds died, sure, I'd play it out loud. I was the only one in the building. About an hour before anyone else started getting in, if my ear buds still hadn't charged enough I turned it off.

Partially to be respectful, and partially because some people get offended by metal even if they can't understand the lyrics. And I mean, yeah, some bands can have unprofessional lyrics. I get it having been in the working world so long.

[–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I feel this. There was one time where I was playing metal over my speakers, but I was the only one in the office and I was not playing it loudly. After a while a security guard was doing rounds and asked me "what the hell" I was listening to. "Cattle Decapitation," I said, and they wrinkled their nose like someone shat in the trashcan and went on about how they can't how anyone would like "that stuff" -- I shrugged and said me neither and got back to my work.

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[–] oyo@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago

Make America feel shame again.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I can't stand going to a restaurant and having to hear a child's tablet playing a video.

[–] poo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

It's a thing that inconsiderate people and just plain bad parents do

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It does keep the kid from talking loudly and fidgeting and running around. But yeah if the tablet/phone is loud it's annoying.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My kids are loud too. What keeps them from talking loudly and running around in a restaurant is me. (Why no fidgeting?) If you've got restaurant money but no more sanity or time, then bring them to fast food, not a nice place with social norms.

Fuck yes it's hard. Everyone has excuses, every child is different. None of those excuses are everyone else's problem.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fucking amen. I've never had issues with my kids in a restaurant because I waited until I knew they could handle it. Pretty god damned simple. Plus there's just certain things you don't allow like...running around unsupervised? Wtf is wrong with some people.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

Narcissistic indulgences

[–] Case@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 1 day ago

When I acted up, threw a tantrum, basically disturbed the peace, my mother would get up, take me outside away from others until I settled down. Did trips to the grocery store take some additional time some days? Yeah. But I learned pretty quick.

This wasn't some stay at home mom who had tons of free time. My mom worked 40+ hours a week, was the primary bread winner, and still did a decent job of raising me.

[–] puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

or a movie theater......

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 173 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (35 children)

Bring back the headphone jack. Dumping the 3.5mm jack is what brought this on.

It is simple as that. I do not want to worry about the headphones being charged and losing another charging case and making more room for another thing to charge where i charge everything else.

I do not want that at all.

It was the dumbest thing to make me need batteries for headphones. And I don't do any of this stuff that is in the article. But BRING BACK THE JACK.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago

If it's on speaker they want you to join the conversation, so don't feel shy about joining and taking the conversation where you want it to go.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

People in this country are shit pigs and they resent anyone that tells them that obvious truth.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago (1 children)

New iphones come with a USB-C cable.

That’s it.

They formerly came with cable, charger, and wired ear buds appropriate to the phone.

Airlines distribute 3.5mm jack ear buds, if any at all.

It’s already a potential failure point expecting people to remember to carry an accessory allowing them to listen privately even if one is provided with the device on an incredibly common connection type.

But now they’re not included, you have to buy specialty USB-C ear buds or expensive airpods. More points of failure.

Haven’t even touched on the asshole factor of individuals just not giving an F and listening to their devices on speaker without regard to their fellow humans.

Every single flight I’ve been on there has been at least one individual VoIP calling, video watching, or gaming on their cell phone speaker that needed to be told to stop by the cabin crew.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago

Many countries have made it illegal for phones to not use USB-C. Would be nice to also make it illegal for them to omit the 3.5 mm jack too

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why does that article feel so disjointed? Tgis paragraph was especially random:

“I engaged once with a guy who had a different opinion. He was like, ‘I don’t think so. I don’t think it’s bothersome.’”

No explanation or attribution for the quote. Just sandwiched in there

It's the text equivalent of a sixth finger.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

they had to get some number of quotes from random people. It's just low quality reporting

[–] Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 day ago

Gotta get that word count up

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ah, we're back to the Nextel era, hooray! Which itself was caused by the fact that Nextel PTT was just more convenient to use by grab-and-talk than it was to bother opening the phone and switching to the handset speaker.

Tech bros and AirPods caused this current problem. Give a person something expensive, easy to lose, and unreliable that runs on batteries, they're going to choose the safer loud option while traveling. Plain and simple. Tech bros see it as profit, completely ignoring the societal implications because that's not their problem.

Affordable common wired headphones included with the device that don't interfere with the power jack, nor require a battery, should always be the way.

Edit: Spelling

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Damn so many Nextel push to talk ads just came rushing back into my memory.

Also, how the fuck are AirPods “unreliable”?????? I have a 1st gen pair that still works just as well as my other AirPod pro pair. They have hours of battery life and the case itself has an internal battery bank. How does profit have anything to do with wireless audio and the removal of phone jack??? They didn’t take away the jack to sell more headphones LMAO.

I hate wires and I’ll physically fight anyone who says we shouldn’t do wireless simply because some anssholes exist.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago

Where you at dawg? The whole city is behind us!

Gonna spend the rest of my response over the obvious triple question mark. (And I have a Motorola BT headset from 2006 that still works, AirPods are not that, for the record. They were always eWaste.)

Had a first gen pair that randomly die in sequence during meetings, they aged to uselessness in under 2 years. No way to replace the battery, obviously. Audio behaves weird sometimes. Unreliable - I also meant a meta-reason as to why people don't use them in airports pre-flight. The battery life is unreliable if you forgot you used them earlier and didn't recharge, or rather, short. So you aren't looking at all-day wear and listen, you have a finite amount of time. I've also on a few occasions almost dropped the tiny buggers on flights when taking them out to hear flight attendants, which makes me avoid wearing them on some flights so I don't lose them forever. Anker actually makes a pair of around-ear projection headphones that work all day, the battery is obviously bigger, and won't bother mentioning the model because not trying to shill them.

Unrelated general stuff: AirPods were also an homage as their existence made every other company produce tiny firecracker ear devices. Samsung has a pair that one earphone just stops working as loud as the other, who knows if it was ESD or ear wax or fate. Not anything to do with unreliability mentioned above, obviously, that's a Samsung thing.

Probably would be more usable if they were as cheap as they cost to make that a person could just own two or three pairs and just swap them from the charge case, but that would also accelerate eWaste.

[–] Antiproton@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

I've wasted countless hours waiting for people on zoom calls to sort out their stupid air pod issues.

They didn’t take away the jack to sell more headphones LMAO.

That is absolutely why it was done.

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Everything has its place. At my desk with my computer, I don’t want to worry about keeping something charged, and it’s only ever connected to my computer, so I’ll use wired. If I’m listening to music at home or playing games on the couch I’ll use wireless over the ear headphones, and if I’m out and about I’ll use my AirPods.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 114 points 2 days ago (9 children)

How do people not realize this?

Take your phone off speaker phone. It isn't a difficult concept. Entitled assholes. Keep your voice down so you don't irritate the hell out of others. I don't want to hear about your intestines. (BTW not aiming this at the op just at those that can't figure this out.)

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 113 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Calling out rude people needs to be normalized. Stop being polite to those who aren't.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 57 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Have fun with that...

I have called out rude people both politely and bluntly. Always is a conflict. So, just prepared to get into it.

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[–] ElderReflections@fedia.io 78 points 2 days ago

Obvioisly if someone's on speaker phone it's because they want you to join in the conversation. It's your duty to gather round and give your loud & uninformed opinions

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

It only takes one asshole in a crowded subway car to ruin it for everyone. I like to read on the subway, but they're basically telling me that if I want to drown out their tiktok videos, I need to bring something with me with my own audio to listen to over headphones, just to not hear them.

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