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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 49 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Ugh. Don’t get me started.

Most people don’t understand that the only thing it does is ‘put words together that usually go together’. It doesn’t know if something is right or wrong, just if it ‘sounds right’.

Now, if you throw in enough data, it’ll kinda sorta make sense with what it writes. But as soon as you try to verify the things it writes, it falls apart.

I once asked it to write a small article with a bit of history about my city and five interesting things to visit. In the history bit, it confused two people with similar names who lived 200 years apart. In the ‘things to visit’, it listed two museums by name that are hundreds of miles away. It invented another museum that does not exist. It also happily tells you to visit our Olympic stadium. While we do have a stadium, I can assure you we never hosted the Olympics. I’d remember that, as i’m older than said stadium.

The scary bit is: what it wrote was lovely. If you read it, you’d want to visit for sure. You’d have no clue that it was wholly wrong, because it sounds so confident.

AI has its uses. I’ve used it to rewrite a text that I already had and it does fine with tasks like that. Because you give it the correct info to work with.

Use the tool appropriately and it’s handy. Use it inappropriately and it’s a fucking menace to society.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I know this is off topic, but every time i see you comment of a thread all i can see is the pepsi logo (i use the sync app for reference)

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

You know, just for you: I just changed it to the Coca Cola santa :D

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I gave it a math problem to illustrate this and it got it wrong

If it can’t do that imagine adding nuance

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Ymmv i guess. I've given it many difficult calculus problems to help me through and it went well

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Well, math is not really a language problem, so it's understandable LLMs struggle with it more.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

But it means it’s not “thinking” as the public perceives ai

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm, yeah, AI never really did think. I can't argue with that.

It's really strange now if I mentally zoom out a bit, that we have machines that are better at languange based reasoning than logic based (like math or coding).

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And then google to confirm the gpt answer isn't total nonsense

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've had people tell me "Of course, I'll verify the info if it's important", which implies that if the question isn't important, they'll just accept whatever ChatGPT gives them. They don't care whether the answer is correct or not; they just want an answer.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

That is a valid tactic for programming or how-to questions, provided you know not to unthinkingly drink bleach if it says to.

[–] gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 157 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Meanwhile Google search results:

  • AI summary
  • 2x "sponsored" result
  • AI copy of Stackoverflow
  • AI copy of Geeks4Geeks
  • Geeks4Geeks (with AI article)
  • the thing you actually searched for
  • AI copy of AI copy of stackoverflow
[–] rescue_toaster@lemm.ee 79 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Should we put bets on how long until chatgpt responds to anything with:

Great question, before i give you a response, let me show you this great video for a new product you'll definitely want to check out!

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Nah, it'll be more subtle than that. Just like Brawno is full of the electrolytes plants crave, responses will be full of subtle product and brand references marketers crave. And A/B studies performed at massive scales in real-time on unwitting users and evaluated with other AIs will help them zero in on the most effective way to pepper those in for each personality type it can differentiate.

[–] sleen@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 day ago

"Great question, before i give you a response, let me introduce you to raid shadow legends!"

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Google search is literally fucking dogshit and the worst it has EVER been. I'm starting to think fucking duckduckgo (relies on Bing) gives better results at this point.

[–] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Ive been using only duckduck for years now. If I don’t find something there, I dont need it.

[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I have been using Duck for a few years now and I honestly prefer it to Google at this point. I'll sometimes switch to Google if I don't find anything on Duck, but that happens once every three or four months, if that.

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[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm in sciences and the AI overview gives wrong answers ALL THE TIME. If students or god forbid professionals rely on it thats bad news.

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We have new feature, use it!

No, its broken and stupid, I prefer old feature.

... Fine!

breaks old feature even harder

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 5 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I’ve used Google since 2004. I stopped using it this year because as the parent comment points out, it’s all marketing and AI. I like Qwant but it’s not perfect but it functions like a previous version of Google.

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[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Reject proprietary LLMs, tell people to "just llama it"

[–] sus@programming.dev 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Acters@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Top is proprietary llms vs bottom self hosted llms. Bothe end with you getting smacked in the face but one looks far cooler or smarter to do, while the other one is streamlined web app that gets you there in one step.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 1 hour ago

But when it is open source, nobody gets regularly slain and the planet progressively destroyed due to mega conglomerate entities automating class violence

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 33 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Did you chatgpt this title?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

"Infinitively" sounds like it could be a music album for a techno band.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Have they? Don't think I've heard that once and I work with people who use chat gpt themselves

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 15 hours ago

I'm with you. Never heard that. Never.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Last night, we tried to use chatGPT to identify a book that my wife remembers from her childhood.

It didn’t find the book, but instead gave us a title for a theoretical book that could be written that would match her description.

[–] dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

At least it said if it exists, instead of telling you when it was written (hallucinating)

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Maybe it’s trying to motivate me to become a writer.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

How long until ChatGPT starts responding "It's been generally agreed that the answer to your question is to just ask ChatGPT"?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

I'm somewhat surprised that ChatGPT has never replied with "just Google it, bruh!" considering how often that answer appears in its data set.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

just call it cgpt for short

Computer Generated Partial Truths

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly, partial truths are an improvement over some sources these days.

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 4 points 18 hours ago

Which is still better than "elementary truths that will quickly turn into shit I make up without warning", which is where ChatGPT is and will forever be stuck at.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Both suck now.

I have to say, look it up online and verify your sources.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

GPTs natural language processing is extremely helpful for simple questions that have historically been difficult to Google because they aren't a concise concept.

The type of thing that is easy to ask but hard to create a search query for like tip of my tongue questions.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Google used to be amazing at this. You could literally search "who dat guy dat paint dem melty clocks" and get the right answer immediately.

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 12 points 23 hours ago

I say, "Just search it." Not interested in being free advertising for Google.

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is entirely Google's fault.

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[–] OhShitSon@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

"Let's ask MULTIVAC!"

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