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[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 180 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Speak only for yourself. In the meantime, I use uBlock.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Inb4 they lock youtube behind DRMs with hardware authentication.

(Some apps don't run on third-party OS like Graphene OS anymore, that could be the future of technology)

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If they make it too hard I'll stop watching. I have no intention of watching their ads (ads are psychological abuse), and they charge way-yyy too much for premium.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

If they make it too hard I’ll stop watching.

Exactly. There is practically an infinite supply of entertainment with a wide variety these days. There are too many alternatives to care about any single source.

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[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Knowing what people are like, that won't stop adblockers for long

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago (16 children)

I'd pay YouTube if it were $5/month instead of $15.

In fact, a couple of my favorite YouTube creators are on nebula.tv and I pay them $30/year.

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Nebula rules I always make a point to check there first. Great for treadmill shows and stuff

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I'd pay YouTube if it were $5/month instead of $15.

It's less than 5/month on the family plan IF you have 4 other people you'd like to share with

The family plan is the only reason I pay for premium lol.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I pay $14CAD for Crunchyroll and I don’t even use it that much. I use hours and hours of Youtube content pretty much every day. I also had Nebula but need to get that sorted again now that they aren’t with Curiosity Stream.

People will pay for a lot of stuff but ask them to pay for Youtube and they will lose their damn minds.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

YouTube doesn't even produce their own content. I'd rather get it somewhere else, if creators offer that option.

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[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's one or the other. If you pay YouTube for Premium and don't get any ads, advertisers don't pay for your ad impression.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

wish there was an option for "pay the platform the few cents the ads make" instead of me paying the platform a wild and ever increasing amount of money

Tbh I feel like they should take a ~30% cut from the creator tips feature and add that to a "ad balance" which would remove ads and subtract the few cents they would've got from the ad. That way YouTube gets paid, the consumer doesn't get ads, and the creator gets encouraged to make good content.

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You keep imagining some way how YT could get cheaper for you.

But in fact, ads are highly profitable, and if you buy a premium there's a very transparent revenue share model. 70% of your money goes directly to the creators.

All your wishes are already fulfilled, you're just poor and are trying to justify not paying with imagined arguments.

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[–] SuspiciousUser@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

Finally a non-braindead comment.

[–] RedIce25@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This can't seriously be surprising for anybody, youtube with its on-demand unlimited video storage and streaming has to be one of the biggest money sinks on the internet.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

And this is why peertube will never actually take off outside of a Utopian future of unlimited energy and a future where everything is perfectly distributed

Who is going to pay the hosting costs? Who is going to pay the bandwidth costs? Let's say magic happens and the users donate enough for that. Who is going to pay the creators who that is their main source of income?

Now what will happen when people demand 4k content everywhere, and then 8k after that? That quadruples the cost of the bandwidth and hosting costs.

I absolutely hate hate hate subscription models and hate ads. There has to be a subscription model for any video hosting platform, and YouTube doesn't split up into exclusivity deals like shitty steaming services to screw over the consumer for profit. So at least there is that.

Decentralized systems work extremely well for text and even audio-based services. Video is a whole other beast, especially long form video at high resolutions.

If a subscription makes sense anywhere it is for something like YouTube, totally agreed. According to YouTube stats 4.3 Petabytes of new data get uploaded every single day to the platform. That's absolutely mindboggling.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its the most expensive service ever.

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[–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 1 week ago

*and we block YouTube ads to not show ads

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ever heard of Elsevier? You pay them for the privilege of posting your article, and then they charge other people for the privilege of accessing it.

[–] GargleBlaster@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And they don't pay the people actually proofreading/peer reviewing the stuff

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And in return, YouTube serves video and pays creators.

[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago (12 children)

pays creators

Not enough. Otherwise creators would not need to include their own ads which Premium users can’t hide.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not possible to pay enough to overcome human greed.

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I scrape videos off of YouTube using Pinchflat which dumps them into a folder, predownloaded for me, which I then have connected to a Jellyfin server that splits each channel up as an individual series, ads and bumpers stripped entirely, and it automatically downloads videos as they release.

Paying sounded too involved. Make a google account, etc...

Who has the time?

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bro I think you just created a reason for me to build my next server. Thank you for this!

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Honest? Wallet was on the other side of the room.

It was legit easier to run docker commands on my phone.

lol, np

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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

not the first time capitalism asks you for money to solve problems capitalism created...

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As a highly experienced software developer, I'm available for not writing software at a reduced rate of $45/hr, and I can handle unlimited overtime.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

YouTube keeps uBlock functioning to keep me going to their website.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The thing with advertising is that the advertisers make more money in product sales from people who watched ads than they spend telling YT to push their ads. That's just how the advertising business works.

In other words, either the viewers pay youtube not to show ads, or the viewers pay the advertisers to pay youtube (in a roundabout way).

So it's just you paying in both cases, unless you use an adblocker :)

PSA: firefox + ublock origin blocks youtube ads even on mobile (on android at least)

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[–] MooseTheDog@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Youtube sends me data, I simply do not accept it. Simple as. No higher argument is needed

[–] hihi24522@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

The bourgeoisie (parasites) pay the bourgeoisie (parasites) to make their service worse in an attempt to extract more capital from you. You give the bourgeoisie capital… to stop them from making their service worse in order to take your capital?

This is a lose lose for you and a win win for corpo scum. Use an Adblock, take to the seven seas, use platforms that are decentralized. Then it’s a win win for you and, added bonus, it’s typically parasite free.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Meanwhile YouTubers don’t get paid enough so they still show you their ads.

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[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The US Postal Service should get in on this action.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I would prefer the USPS bring back basic banking at their branches.

If they're going to add anything, add Internet as a Service, since it's an essential utility for modern living.

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[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

Well yes, that's how they don't go out of business. In theory.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So you're saying the audience for the ads have the people who are willing to pay for stuff, the very people the advertisers are paying to reach, removed from it.

I wonder how much longer this will go before the advertisers catch on to that.

[–] Chefdano3@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And yet they show us ads even if we do pay.

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[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago


"We"? Who's "we"? There is no "we".

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