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[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 47 points 4 months ago
[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This has to be the worst 12 months of press any company has gotten since Subway and Jared right?

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 4 months ago

and subway didn't even murder whistleblowers

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago

damn I hope someone is taking care of their cats

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 23 points 4 months ago

I thought it was just a test flight? Are they seriously put the lives of astronaut in that leaking piece of safety hazard and hurl them back to earth?

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

America legit hasn't made a good spacecraft since Apollo. Somehow Boeing is gonna outdo the space shuttle.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

meanwhile the soyuz is like the toyota camry of spacecraft

[–] fox@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

3 astronauts were burned to death in Apollo 1 on the ground and Apollo 13 had to be aborted midway to the moon after an explosion took out life support

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Such an iconic episode. xi-button

[–] allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Jesus Christ, I knew this would happen. Fucking terrifying.

Edit: Actually it was Starlink imploding or whatever that I foresaw, but you know the free market is going to give us that at some point in the near future.

[–] fox@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

Starlink is actually burning holes in the ozone layer

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It would be extremely funny if Russia and/or China sends aid to the astronauts before the US does

[–] WayeeCool@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sadly the Obama administration made it illegal for NASA to cooperate with or take any aid from China.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 months ago

They did make an exception to that to take their moon rocks from the Chang'e mission though

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Incredible how melon-musk's company wasn't the one that this happened to (yet).

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

No theirs leaks hypergolic fuel (only on the ground though)

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

Maybe China can rescue them like in The Martian

[–] CDommunist@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If I was an astronaut I think I would enjoy an extra week in space

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

Probably just spend a lot of time watching the world go by. Legit that's been a dream of mine since I was a kid.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If I was an astronaut or training to be one and saw this shit I would immediately quit, not going to have my ride back to the only habitable planet be contingent on some capitalist fuck for brains operation like Boeing Starliner

[–] YoungSheldonAdelson@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

The previous commander assigned to this mission DID quit. The given excuse was "personal reasons," but I think we all know the truth now.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What if they run out of food?

[–] someone@hexbear.net 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The ISS has a mandatory 45 day minimum supply of food and other essentials needed by the crew. In practice it's more like 6 months. Cargo supplies are launched using several independently-developed cargo ships: Cygnus, Progress, and Cargo Dragon. They're all in regular rotation to top up supplies. The Starliner astronauts could stay up as long as is needed if a Crew Dragon needs to be launched to take them home.

There is a policy of requiring a "lifeboat" seat for every single person on board the ISS. During the Shuttle era where shuttle missions swapped out crew, this role was filled by an extra Soyuz that docked uncrewed. Nowadays it's filled by the original vehicle that brought up that specific crew member. If Starliner can't be used to return, that rule will have to be waived temporarily. If that happens then a Crew Dragon is the only vehicle likely to be used to bring them home. They're proven reliable vehicles that can do automated docking. In theory a Soyuz can dock uncrewed as well and is also an incredibly safe way to return to Earth (though it is a bit of a roller coaster ride). In practice, given the geopolitical climate, I think it would be... unlikely. By default it's Crew Dragon.

There's also the issue of spacesuit compatibility. During re-entry, the spacesuits themselves are connected to the vehicle's backup life support systems. If the vehicle pressurization fails or if there's other life support problems that don't compromise the rest of the vehicle, they'll still be able to safely land. Starliner and Crew Dragon suits don't talk to each other. Some sort of adaptor hardware would have to be built.

Which brings up the matter of docking port schedules. It's going to be really tricky to finagle schedules and vehicle availability. Docking schedules are typically planned years prior.

So in a nutshell they're completely safe so long as there's no event that requires evacuation of the ISS. And even then they'd probably pile in to the nearest Crew Dragon, try to line the cargo floor with something thick and soft and light, and basically bareback it down to Earth. But because there's a lifeboat rule they're going to want them home quick.

[–] fox@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The life support connectors aren't standardized? Kind of shocking

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

Well if we standardize them, then we can’t charge them $600,000 for repairs

[–] Tiocfaidhcaisarla@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

I hope Zip Calhoun can still make his hair appointment next week