Took me a second to realize they meant literal flames, not a figure of speech describing a market selloff. Poor building. : (
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Oooh God, there's a fire!!!!.....sale
(Sorry for quoting arrested development during a tragedy)
Same. This is why words matter, and sensational headlines do more harm than good. I always feel like I’m screaming into the void on this point. Headlines should not have cute puns or misleading language. They should be simple and direct. We need words to mean what they mean, especially in times like this. No more slamming, slicing, bleeding, or flaming unless those things actually happened.
If you ever read old newspapers, it’s fuckin wild how clear and descriptive they are. Modern reporting is downright conversational by comparison.
I read a book on the Wright Brothers and early flight recently, and holy shit is it astounding how often reporters would just make up whatever shit they wanted in the 1900s-1920s.
With chatbots writing half of all news articles today, it’s not that different really
The picture didn't tip you off?
Bold of you to assume I actually opened the article web page and got more than a thumbnail.
There is a group of amateurs building a suborbital rocket called "Copenhagen Suborbital".
At first I though the picture was a failed rocket launch !
The old stock exchange was being renovated and had been shrouded in scaffolding and protective plastic covering.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_fire
The fire has been compared to the similar 1992 Windsor Castle fire and the Uppark fire, among others,[114] and has raised old questions about the safety of similar structures and the techniques used to restore them.[114] Renovation increases fire risk, and a police source reported they are looking into whether such work had caused this incident.[19][115]
Renovation presents a fire risk from sparks, short-circuits, and heat from welding (roof repairs involved cutting, and soldering lead sheets resting on timber[19]). Normally, no electrical is allowed in the roof space because of the extreme fire risk.[24] The roof framing was made of very dry timber, often powdery with age.[19] After the fire, the architect responsible for fire safety at the cathedral acknowledged that the rate at which fire might spread had been underestimated, and experts said it was well known that a fire in the roof would be almost impossible to control.[27]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uppark#Fire
On 30 August 1989 the building was devastated by a fire caused by a workman's blowtorch whilst repairing lead flashing on the roof, just two days before the work was due to be completed.[10] The fire broke out during opening hours. Many works of art and pieces of furniture were carried out of the burning building by members of the Meade-Fetherstonehaugh family, National Trust staff and members of the public. Although the garret and first floors collapsed onto the lower floors and the garret and first-floor contents were lost completely, the floors largely fell clear of the ground-floor walls and much of the panelling and decoration survived.
Beat me to it.
Renovation seems to be a dangerous business.
Looks like they've updated OP's article to mention Notre Dame and draw parallels as well.
One of the craftsmen replacing brickwork on the building saw the fire break out on the roof while he was on the scaffolding.
Fire department chief Jakob Vedsted Andersen said firefighters faced an almost impossible task accessing the area under the old copper roof.
Kinda wild we don't learn from these past mistakes. Notre Dame was only 5 years ago.
What's the lesson to take away?
When renovating super old buildings, be extra careful about fire safety? 🤷
Time-travel to the 17th century and stop construction on non-fire-retardant buildings, obviously.
non-fire- removed ant
I don't know which instance is doing this shit (world or ml, I assume), but it's absolutely removed. 😤
Maybe it's just your client.
I’m on World and I see the word.
It's yours.
Remove the historic paintings during renovation, at least. Surely it would be possible to rig up some sort of sprinkler system as well. Firefighter access to the roof may be difficult once the fire is blazing, but maybe some mitigation systems could be installed before the blowtorches and welders come out.
Better fire safety obviously.
Not just better fire safety, but an appropriate approach to fire safety that accounts for the fact that these buildings are beyond antiques with considerations very different than modern buildings.
Wood rooves need halide protections. The biggest issue is the way rooves were made back in the day often leaving a gap between the ceiling of the structure and the roof continuing the full length and width of the roof. Dump a bunch of halide in that gap and it should snuff itself.
Its very similar to the reason balloon framing is seen as super dangerous.
the market is lit 🔥
Wifi fire? Wifi will do that.