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Yes? Especially if the territory of that state is forcibly taken away from others who are living on it
Creating the United States was similarly terrible as it involved the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Native Americans. Same with Australia. Same with South Africa. Same with Rhodesia.
Forcibly taking someone's home and cleansing an area of an ethnicity is certainly regarded as one of the worst actions a group of people can do. And rightly so
Of course, the way Israel was created was not ideal. I do not agree that Israel should have forced people out.
Just like many Arab countries should not have forced Jews out.
But unfortunately, it’s not very feasible to return it to the previous state now...
A lot of countries have a right of return. It works just fine. They may not be able to get the family farm back, but we can't win everything.
You see, we can't win everything. Hence why we cannot "win" Palestine from the river to the sea.
Sure you can. Israel is doing it right now with genocide.
So far the international court has not decided on the genocide case, so it’s incorrect to accuse them of genocide now.
South Africa has accused them of genocide. You're saying South Africa, a former apartheid regime that has since been liberated, is incorrect to do so? What gives you the authority to judge them so? Obviously it isn't because you've read their filings with the International Court of Justice
Exactly, nothing gives me the authority to judge it. Same applies to you. As long as final decision is not made, we cannot accuse them of genocide.
Why can South Africa accuse them of genocide?
I mean any state can go there. I also can go to the local court and say that someone is a mass murderer. However, until the court does not make the final decision, the person is considered innocent.
I have read and believe South Africa's filings. It is clear to me that Israel is choosing to carry out genocide and I will speak and act accordingly
I have also read it and there are some inaccuracies.
The UN definition is public knowledge. It's not like it's a secret we have to wait for the clerics to decipher. What they're doing meets the definition.
Not necessarily, proving the intention is the key to genocide accusations and it’s quite tough to prove.
Because half the ministry and the PM saying they need to clear it out and settle it isn't proof of intent?
I doubt it is half of the government but some radicals support it. That’s, of course, awful and will make Israel's life harder.
However, this logic cannot be 100% applied because in our parliament, we have a Nazi party and that does not equal we are a Nazi state.
Is the Nazi party in charge of policing the oppressed minority you don't recognize as a country or citizens of your country?
Except the people saying it are the ones in charge so...
They are in charge in our country, too. They are just a minority.