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Ahead of Chair Vote, Progressives Say DNC 'Failing Disastrously' to Learn From Loss to Trump
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Manchin and Sinema consistently voted against party lines and were known for being republicans running as democrats. They consistently blocked the DNC. This is a bad faith argument.
Doesn't matter, they set the boundaries for the party and they weren't cast out or reprimanded effectively, ergo they led the Democratic party and the Biden administration.
The DNC operates in bad faith on a constant basis, or have you forgotten Hillary's superdelegates, or all the moderates coalescing around biden when bernie was winning the second time, its par for the course.
The DNC only wins championing progressive policies and then turns around and fellates the most centrist most milquetoast moderates, its steeped in bad faith.
Democrats needed them to cooperate to get anything passed. If pressed too hard they would’ve switch republican and democrats would’ve gotten so little legislation passed that they would’ve been identical to the leftists that have never accomplished anything.
This is a foreign concept to leftists because leftists don’t get elected let alone get legislation passed. Or understand the importance of voting as you’re proving.
Working together to get a trusted candidate elected is also a foreign concept. That is why every progressive that gets elected ends up being a republican (Fetterman, Sinema, etc.).
Yet we still have leftists complaining that the DNC won’t have open primaries. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me more than once, I must be a leftists.
The DNC wins by trying to cater to as many voters as possible because that’s the job of a politician.
Leftists consistently lose by refusing to work with anyone outside of their ideology which is just a small fraction of the voters.
Damn you're right that's must be why Harris won so hard by campaigning with liz cheney 🤮.
Keep losing, nobody wants what you're selling.
Move left or be left behind.
Trump lost by more than Harris in 2020 then came back and won. If he followed your advice he wouldn’t have won in 2024.
Leave it to leftists (a group that never wins elections) to quit too soon.
I voted Democrat in every single election since I turned 18, im 34 now, the democrats are not going to get us where we need to go.
Democrats don't fight hard enough, and they reach across the aisle to pivot right at every opportunity.
They would rather court never trumpers like liz cheney 🤮 than make concessions to their own base
Democrats don't want to win, they want to capture progressive momentum and suffocate it.
Your party is not entitled to our votes when you fail to deliver.
Merrick Garland ass motherfuckers telling me the left cant win.
Leftists consistently lose elections and have never gotten a single piece of legislation passed. They are a very small fraction of all voters and they refuse to work with other ideologies. This guarantees they will continue to lose and never get any legislation passed.
Democrats are better off working with centrists because they actually show up to vote. Unlike leftists who can easily be tricked into not voting in their own best interest by using hot topics like Gaza or whatever the current event is.
Damn apartheid is so hot right now
The left wasn't tricked, we're just sick of being taken for granted and having our concerns blatantly ignored. Your failure to make concessions and compromises with your own base is shooting yourself in the foot.
Lol good luck courting conservatives when the Republican party delivers so hard for their base, what the fuck do you have to offer to win them over? Nothing.
This is why the left consistently loses and never gets legislation passed. Democrats could explain there aren’t enough votes in Congress for them to get what they want but they aren’t smart enough to win on their own so how can they understand even such a simple concept.
Leftist can’t win elections so they have to leech off democrats’ success, dragging democrats down to their level of constant losing.
Honest question, why don't you try to moderate the Republican party towards centrism instead of trying drag the Democrats further right? I think its because your a conservative troll personally
Because I’m a leftist so I refuse to work with other ideologies even if it is in my best interests.
🤡
A fellow leftist I see
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Yes, their strategy of crowbarring in the candidate their funders want via superdelegate or just unilateral appointment has really appealed to the majority of voters
Appealed to more voters than leftist are able muster.
If there is any truth to that statement it is solely because of voter disenfranchisement through antivoter gerry-mandering, electoral college bullshit.
So if your saying you have to vote for us its rigged in our favor then you are correct.
But heres the thing, we can just take our ball and fuck all of yall over too, as much as you hate it you can't win without us.
Democrats have been winning without leftists since the 90s. After leftists tanked the 2024 election by not showing up to vote, democrats are better off appealing to centrists like they have every election win since the 90s.
Oh really is that why Obama won? Cause he campaigned on the centrist position of universal healthcare?
Or maybe that's why Hilary won?
Or maybe that's why Kamala won?
Democrats failed to even have a conversation about gaza because their thought they could win on centrism, and guess what they fucking lost hard with their prosecutor president.
Obama didn’t win because of universal healthcare. That worked against him but he did it to make leftists happy and they crucified him when he didn’t have enough votes in senate and had to compromise.
That’s what leftists do. Attack their allies and refuse to work with other ideologies.
Hilary won the popular vote and lost because of Russian election interference.
Harris lost because she tried to cater to leftists and they abandoned her. Again proving that leftist are a waste of time.
Why didn’t you mention Biden? He had a record setting win without leftists.
Democrats didn’t discuss Gaza because the US funds Israel to keep Iran from growing in power in that region and keep Russia at bay in Syria. Iran/Russia bots are working overtime to try to get people like you to do their work for them.
2.popular vote doesn't count for shit
3.bullshit Harris did nothing for the left, she was too busy speaking over them
Biden made concessions to the left like student loan reform and also there was mail in voting and trumps covid failure helped him
So the Palestinians just get genocide and that's alright with you because ends justify the means, cool.
What about the genocide in Ukraine being caused by Iran’s drones and Russias invasion. Just let Iran produce more drones for Russia while Russia entrenches itself in Syria, cool.
The only way to stop the genocide in Gaza is to replace Netanyahu. But the Russian/Iranian bots aren’t pushing that talking point.
Ok I think I understand, brown genocide acceptable, white genocide not acceptable.
Whataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhatabout
So you’re saying you think white genocide is acceptable but brown genocide not acceptable.
Whataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhatabout
Not at all, your just trying to deflect.
At the end of the day what your really saying is we have to stop ukraine from becoming a second Palestine.
Im not saying we shouldn't support ukraine, never has that been my position as you are now implying.
All I said is the Democrats failed to even have a conversation about it, they tried to bulldoze through it.
Because it is foreign actors that are pushing to stop weapon sales to Israel and that would give Iran and Russia such a military advantage that it isn’t an option.
Ok perhaps, but maybe if they had less weapons they would reserve them for use against I dunno not a civilian population.
You gotta have a redline.
At the end of the day we aren't responsible for the actions of others only our own.
We can't stop israel from bombing civilians but we can stop giving them bombs.
I can't make the democrats sanction israel, but I can withhold my vote.
And if you want to bitch about iran then holy shit dawg don't get me started on how this is all the USA's fault to begin with.
They had democracy and we overthrew it for a puppet and now they have fucking theocracy. I should know Im Iranian.
China, Russia, Iran, North Korea all working together to start World War 3 which would cause more genocide than 10 Gazas.
Withholding your vote will cause more genocide.
To be clear I never withheld my vote.
I voted for Kamala, Biden, Clinton, and Obama
Hey, if you want I can let you borrow my goalpost mover. It's handy for whipping up those No True Scotsmans in a jiffy.
No goalpost was moved. You should learn the meaning of terms before you try to use them.