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In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Gen-X men got him elected. As a white man in his 40s, I’m disgusted. After moving out of the city, I just can’t converse with most of the white men my age. The majority of my friends are now younger than me or POC.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It's my understanding that a lot of Gen-Z men backed Trump as well. Can't say I understand the appeal he has to the younger crowd.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is of the people who voted. I wouldn't be surprised if the non voting population was a significant number.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

That’s a fair point. 18-24 year olds only accounted for 17% of the vote. Many of them sat out.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely, tens of millions easily.

That's what happens when, no matter who gets elected, your life gets worse. You decide not to miss out on a badly-needed day's pay in order to vote for someone who treats you like dog poo under their boot.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The appeal was that Harris represented a status quo that has people working 2-3 jobs for the privilege of being unable to afford living in the US, and for Gen Z'ers, it also meant a status quo that has them permanently indebted.

And she spent two months insisting that people should be joyful about it. I said it back in June. Trump could win because he doesn't have to lie about how hard Biden's presidency has affected the middle class and the poor, and people who don't like him won't care about his social policies because he will represent the candidate of change.

Also, don't come at me. I voted Green in a deep red state.

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not here to come at you, but do you really think Biden is the reason times are hard? When they managed to get $170,000,000,000 of student debt forgiven, and the Republicans blocked an additional $430,000,000,000, that didn't stick with people?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, I do.

Biden has made hundreds of millions appear out of thin air for war, and very little appear out of thin air for American suffering. I agree with you that the limited debt cancellation was a huge thing, and I'm glad he did it. I personally know someone who had $200,000 forgiven, and I'm grateful for that.

But it's undeniable that Democrats didn't follow through on their mandate for change under Biden.

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like I need to point out that student loan forgiveness was in the hundreds of billions and was the most direct thing they could do to actually help longterm... since medical reform is apparently a non-starter per Obama's efforts. Climate change will continue to make everything worse, but I guess we can try to artificially prop things up to delay and worsen externalities coming home to roost. /shrug

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

Biden has made hundreds of millions appear out of thin air for war

Has he, or has he made hundreds of millions worth of 30 year old explosives and drones disappear? This is genuinely why we lost. People read a headline like "Biden sends multi-million dollar aid package to [foreign country]" and think he sent someone over with a fucking duffel bag full of hundred dollar bills. I see the same complaints about space exploration. It's depressing.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you have a citation for this? Maybe it’s just the circles I run in, but I don’t know any gen-x men who voted for Trump.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

White people 45-64 accounted for 25% of the votes. 62% of them voted for Trump.

Men 45-64 was the leading demographic for age by gender at 60%.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wild. I must really live in a bubble or something. Most Gen Xers I know were born in the 1970s and aren’t religious or Republican, and they actually vote. Maybe it’s because I don’t live in a rural area.

I do know a bunch of people born pre-1970 that probably voted Trump.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I’m now in suburban NY, just north of the city. Old money Republicans make the county red.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Gen-X men got him elected.

Like all things Gen-X, there aren't enough of us for negative or positive change. In 2022 only 23% were Gen-X (down 3% from 2012), and assuming equal split on gender, that would be about 11.5% men, and I know for sure 100% of Gen-X men DID NOT vote for trump. For the sake of your argument lets say 70% of those men did thats only 8% of the vote. source

I don't think its a supportable statement to say that this specific 8% are the reason trump was elected without ignoring the other 45% of the electorate.