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Omg a custom meme? I'm genuinely honored

To think, all of this because you've never had a woman tell you she enjoys having sex with you

I think the problem is that Harris was barely appealing to any ideals. If she had run hard on medicare for all and raising the minimum wage, I think she might have gotten the popular vote. Instead, she promised more of the same that we've had for the last 4 years.

Republicans: here's everything you've ever wanted and all the libertarian shit you used to jerk off to.

"But I know that he won't really give them that, and if they're stupid enough to believe that, we don't need their votes anyway"

~Every Democrat I've argued with since Tuesday

I really don't care if some random woman doesn't believe that I truly support women. Especially when you read something like

I'm entirely in favor of women exercising bodily autonomy. As a movement for protecting women, this is great.

and think you need to lecture me on how this movement would protect women and help them exercise their bodily autonomy

Virtually every single demographic, including immigrants, shifted towards Trump this year. Harris, a normal person, was shunned because she was less effective at convincing people (even the very immigrants at risk of being deported) to vote for her than her opponent.

Lmao ditto

Anyone saying that it isn't the Democrats' fault is delusional. To win elections, you have to win favor with more people than the opposition, and Democrats failed to do that

Every argument I've been in since Tuesday has basically boiled down to "we didn't try to get more votes because we shouldn't have to"

I thought you were done wasting time with me?

Lmao what a confession

Run away, cobarde 👋

What about your dismissive attitudes towards women and how it drives them away?

Someone didn't read my reply.

I'll also add that women do in fact face more problems than men. Your rights are being eroded much faster than ours. My discussion of how to convince men to vote for our side should not be interpreted as dismissal of women's issues. All I'm saying (and it is all that I'm saying) is that we need to avoid situations where apathetic or conservative men see our comments and think we don't give a shit about them. Not because I want to protect the feelings of conservative men, but because we needed their votes, and we will need their votes to prevent another Trump win.

You can reply if you want, but I'm done

No, I didn't really care in the first place, and I didn't feel like explaining how introducing a change (say, separating women and men) might have an effect that not introducing that change wouldn't. The default state has been men and women having relationships, for the entirety of history. Women didn't suddenly start having more sex with men in the last 4 years, so you wouldn't expect to see any change in voting demographics based on that no change. I care even less now, because we're so deep in these replies that I don't expect even one other person to read this paragraph. We may as well be arguing in DMs, which I don't do.

My assertion that it doesn't matter in the first place is because the 4B movement has existed in Korea for years, and hasn't successfully affected political change. I suppose I could have clarified that my hypothesis about a successful 4B movement is predicated on there being a successful 4B movement, and my dismissal of it as a way to affect political change is based on the fact that it demonstrably does not affect political change.

No, that's a very naive and simplistic way of reading this thread. Jax's comment

[...] You want to help create more MAGATs? Keep ignoring young men and the problems they have.

Wasn't supporting the literal suggestion that "women should just give up their bodies to these disgusting creatures for the good of the country," it was regarding Eatspancakes84's dismissive attitude towards the genuine problems that young men face.

Problems that, I will add, the Republican party will not fix. Voters are stupid though, and vote based on vibes. If the vibe of one side is "I don't give a shit about you," and the vibe of the other side is "you matter and your problems are valid," the average voter is more likely to vote for the latter, if at all.

I'll also add that women do in fact face more problems than men. Your rights are being eroded much faster than ours. My discussion of how to convince men to vote for our side should not be interpreted as dismissal of women's issues. All I'm saying (and it is all that I'm saying) is that we need to avoid situations where apathetic or conservative men see our comments and think we don't give a shit about them. Not because I want to protect the feelings of conservative men, but because we needed their votes, and we will need their votes to prevent another Trump win.