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[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm scared shitless that I will make it to 100.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This. No one realizes that your probably not gonna make it to 100 in perfect health. If your body doesn't go, it will be your mind. Either way, it does not sound appealing.

If nothing else, the arthritis has gotten so bad, you wanna off yourself anyways.

Hard pass.

[–] Urbanfox@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm 37 and already broken.

My back is killing me, the sciatica makes sitting down hard. My ankle is fucked from too many injuries doing shit like tough mudder because when you're young you're invincible. Top that off with an immune disorder and asthma and it'll be a miracle if I make it to 50 with a good quality of life.

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[–] freecandy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (10 children)
[–] dilligasatall@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Waaay ahead of you there, partner!

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have robots. It's the future now. We should be retiring at 85 while the robots live in luxurious sky cities.

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I, for one, welcome our new robot overlord.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 72 points 1 year ago (21 children)

We should be retiring at 50. This is bullshit.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago (11 children)

We should be building a society where the concept of retiring is alien because the entire point of living isn't to work.

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[–] kucing@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wr should be able to retire whenever we want. Fuck work.

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[–] vsis@feddit.cl 66 points 1 year ago (3 children)

middle aged would be around 36.

I didn't come here to be insulted.

[–] Dr_Fetus_Jackson@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Me: *turns 51 in a few days

Also me: "fuck"

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

According to my kids:

0-30 is young.

31-60 is middle aged.

61-90 is old.

Over 90 is fucking old.

[–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How fucking old are your kids for them to say that? Real kids would definitely say that 25 is approaching retirement age.

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[–] jayrodtheoldbod@midwest.social 16 points 1 year ago

The whole point of calling somebody "middle-aged" is that they're in that indeterminate space where they definitely aren't young anymore, but they aren't like, old, old, yet, basically they're still able-bodied enough to hold down a job.

Not one. Not the other. Somewhere in the middle. Middle-aged.

30 isn't so old, but it depends hard on the person in question, some are still in great shape, but many 30-year-olds have been nursing a back problem and/or jacked knees for years by the time the birthday comes, they sure as hell don't feel young. Some 30s haven't had kids yet, some of them have kids in middle school. So that averages out, and we onboard you to this shitty party at 30. If you can still rock the swimwear at 30, do it, and don't take it for granted.

For the record, we don't care what children think old is. Children are insane.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t disagree, but people get confused by average lifespan because it includes babies that die. If you live to 60, in the USA you’re expected to live another 21.4 years (almost 82). https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/05/long-life-does-not-always-mean-a-healthy-life-in-old-age.html

And that number is still an average. But I get it, 50 still isn’t the middle.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 12 points 1 year ago

People don't understand what life expectancy means, specifically because 99% of the time, people are talking about life expectancy at birth. What life expectancy st birth means is that half the babies are going to be dead before X years (in the case of OP picture that mean half are going to die before reaching 73 yo), so yeah, the majority of people is going to be 50 yo at some point of their life.

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[–] protput@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks for starting my day with giving me a midlife crisis.

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[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (12 children)

eh, you're free to retire in your mid 30s. it's easy. i retired in my late 30s, then went back to work again when I ran out of money a few years later. it was nice, i look forward to retiring again.

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[–] Nioxic@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Avg life span is 80+ in most countries..

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

I've never heard anybody suggest that 50 is middle aged, usually it's traditionally been 30, or nowadays with life expectancies being higher, 36 is spot on.

Anyway, we're all going to work until we're dead, to keep the rich ruling class fed. There's no escape.

[–] 0421008445828ceb46f496700a5fa6@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought 50 was the middle of your adult life, 20-80 ish years old

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[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always viewed middle aged as 40s

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[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wait, your retirement age is less than the average lifespan?

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Right cuz that’s why people work til 65. Totally just a choice/s

[–] tigull@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I guess the point is you're middle aged in regards to your contribution to society. First 15-20 years of your life you pretty much just "take", while the following 50ish you are expected to chip in. In those terms, 50 sounds about right as being referred to as "middle aged".

[–] Machindo@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Something doesn't seem right about that.

You're supposed to work 40+ years to pay off a 20 year debt to society? That doesn't seem fair.

Also you didn't chose to be born, I don't think you owe anyone anything for having to grow to reach an age where you have agency over yourself.

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[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

Holy, i never thought about it like that

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uhm, retirement was invented for the elderly who can't really work on the fields/processing plants anymore. Work changed and people got older since then.

[–] 80085@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most people still work manual labor jobs. Cognitive ability also declines with age. Age discrimination during hiring/recruiting is fairly common (witnessed it at nearly every job I've ever had, even though it's illegal, and I've had a lot of jobs). There aren't enough "bullshit jobs" like Walmart greeter for everybody. Aging population can be solved by permissible immigration (which are comparably younger populations), but there are too many racists and politicians worried about demographic shifts.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Work is now driving people to age faster due to stress.

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The average life expectancy of men in the US is 73 (it was 74 pre-COVID).

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they told you 36 is middle age you would be less inclined to live

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[–] notacat@mander.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

According to some module I had to take yesterday, 18-44 is “young adult” and 45 to something is “middle aged.”

[–] callyral@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Since when do people think 50 is middle-aged? To me it's always been 30-something years old

[–] TheDubz87@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Apparently getting pregnant at 35 is considered a geriatric pregnancy, so that's what I've always considered mid life.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same here. For me, 40 is middle aged, since 80 is the normal age to die. Sure, some die earlier and others later, but once you reach 20 (i.e. discounting the premature deaths), the average woman reaches 81 and the average male 78 or so.

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[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like the energy, but this is still a dumb take, even if it's common. Where TF did the idea that middle= midpoint come from? So does "middle age" last just an instant?

We have young, and elderly, so what do we call the span in the middle when you're neither of those?

[–] qyron@lemmy.pt 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is that we are living longer and healthier than even before and the trend is to keep on rising.

What the real problem is that allowing a person to actually live is troublesome for the current system in place, as in if you do not produce, you are not valuable.

But you are.

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[–] KTVX94@lemmy.myserv.one 11 points 1 year ago

The worst part about this is that it reminds me that I'm close to having lived the statistical half of my life, damn.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So, what's the average life expectancy of people who live past the age of 30?

[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Great question. Looks like the CDC says it's 78.4 ,(48.4 more years expected at age 30 in one of the PDF charts liked to that page).

Edit: Typo fix

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[–] spark947@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Y'all get out of here. Middle age starts at 40. Don't at me.

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Nah dude, the middle ages start at 476

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