I'd be down for something that was more designed around all the fun bio data smart watches can collect. I'd even be down for a slightly invasive implant that would collect data about my health so I can better keep track of it all. Apple seems the most interested in the health stuff from what I've seen and I have no interest in the apple ecosystem. Open source health stuff seems like an opportunity to latch on to before the corpos make the stuff and sell the data.
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Agreed, that'd be nova
Is this some new lingo that's streets ahead?
nova's the new fetch.
fetch is the new XHR.
"Nova" means "awesome" or "amazing" kinda
I agree. I'm less interested in "smartwatch" and more interested in "fitness tracker". PineTime is missing several sensors that competitors like Apple Watch and Fitbit devices have, such as electrical sensors, GPS, and temperature sensors which can be used for more advanced fitness tracking.
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I love my PineTime. I don't care about health stats (I'm well aware of how much time I spend sitting at my computer), but I wanted a watch that did the following things:
- tell me the time
- show text message notifications
- control my music
This watch does all that and... basically nothing else. It has a step-counter but I don't trust it. It has a heart rate monitor but it can never detect my heart rate (I probably wear my watch too loosely). So for my needs, it does everything I want and nothing I don't want. It definitely isn't the right watch for someone who cares about tracking health info, but for reducing the number of times I pull out my phone for stupid reasons, this is perfect. It can even reject phone calls so I don't have to pull my phone out of my pocket when I get yet another spam call.
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I love the concept. I'm all for open tech. Eventually I'd love to have an open-source AI smart home system. But I am absolutely not installing an Alexa or Google home in my house for the obvious reasons
There's Mycroft ( @mycroft_ai ), which carries most of the potential in open source home assistants, but seems to struggle to take of.
Personally I'm an open source enthusiast and the last thing I'd want is this type of technology installed in my house, open source or not. I suspect people like me are the reason this project struggles to gain more traction...
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Home Assistant is great. Fairly friendly to set up (not a easy as Google and such) an HD will integrate with tonnes of brands
This makes me sad because it's not available in my country "for logistical reasons", and it seems to be just what I wanted
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It's € 62,65 over here, fuck that.
If I go to order, it says
29.99 USD watch
11.99 USD shipping
38.98 USD = € 35.56
(Czechia)
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For some reason Pine's EU store is ridiculously overpriced. The pinecil is around £55 if you buy it from the EU store or £47/£55 amazon. I got the pinecil for £33 buying from the US store and just having it shipped over to the UK.
You could think about doing that for this smartwatch!
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I've also got a pinetime watch, never been a fan of the data collection smartwatch companies do, its great to have something that I know exactly how it works with its open source firmware. It's not exactly perfect but there's been tons of updates from contributions by the community, I've even been able to make some modifications of my own too.
If anyone here in the comments has any questions about it I'd be happy to answer them
How's the battery life? My favourite thing about the Pebble was that it lasted a full week between charges, which I always attributed to the e-paper screen.
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It would be cool if it had sensors like oximeter and GPS. But for $27, it's not bad. How's the battery and step counting on it?
The battery truly does last for an impressive amount of time, even actively connected to gadgetbridge on my phone. I get a bit more than a week out of it typically. I can't really say how good the sub counting is I think it's just based on an accelerometer but it doesn't seem any worse than what I had in my Fitbit
Step counting is accurate enough and I go about four days between charges. Sealed version.
and I can know for a fact that it won't phone home with my location or other data to any corporation behind the scenes.
if you've already got a wearable, check if Gadgetbridge supports it. it can replace your gadget's companion app so that it doesn't connect to the cloud. that's what I use with the Mi Band 7 that I got as a gift.
This might make me buy a smartwatch damnit
It's really cool! Both InfiniTime and WASP OS are very easy to modify as well!
WaspOS:
https://wasp-os.readthedocs.io/en/latest/appguide.html
Flashing guide here: https://wasp-os.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install.html#pine64-pinetime
InfiniTime:
https://github.com/InfiniTimeOrg/InfiniTime/blob/main/doc/code/Apps.md
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It's so expensive in Europe :'((
Unfortunately shipping to Canada would cost more than the device itself.
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Wow! That's a bargain price for any smart watch, let alone one that's all FOSS and made by a small company.
This looks legit. Any info on how well it connects to an iPhone or Android?
Works great using an app like gadgetbridge. It Syncs notifications, music control, HR, step counter, etc. It apparently has GPS text directions but I've never used it.
It connects to my android extremely reliably using Gadgetbridge
Are you using any fitness or sleep tracking apps with it? I like the design and open nature but there are hardly any quality apps I've found that integrate well with it.
I don't think so, no, it's pretty sparse on the health tracking side of things.
Look very good, sadly the shipping is very costy for where I live but I will buy it sometime
Edit : do you know any other open-source smartwatch with more fitness tracker?
Software developer here with basic DevOP, Pi and Linux experience. I heard about PineTime earlier but I was afraid that its too complicated. I saw pictures where its opened so I guess you need a little deeper knowledge about micro computing? Is this project still alive and software on both sides usable or us it more like a DIY project where you have to adjust and work on all the time?
I flashed the updated infinitime firmware to my watch once, when I first got it, and it's worked flawlessly since with Gadgetbridge, so if you don't want to tinker with it and just want a simple no-nonsense smartwatch it's great for that. And everything seems to be in such a good working state it doesn't need updates at all. At least thats how it is for me. But it is relatively actively maintained.
As for needing to know a lot of microcomputing to do any tinkering with it, it really doesn't seem like it — the APIs and stuff for adding apps and functionality to either of the major operating systems for the pinetime seam really easy to use. WaspOS even uses MicroPython for everything! Yes, you can open it up, but even that isn't to do anything very complicated, it just makes access to the chips for direct flashing (instead of OTA flashing) possible, so that you can recover if you brick it. It doesn't require any crazy low-level or microcomputing knowledge.
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Wow, that's a very good price for smartwatch! I might buy this to try it.
Can I get notifications from my iPhone on this watch such as iMessage, slack, and now playing (Spotify)?
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how strong is the metronome? the metronome wearable from soundbrenner is bit to big and masc. my wife is searching for a smaller wearable and I have read the pinetime has a metronome function <3.
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