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  • A guaranteed-basic-income program in Austin gave people $1,000 a month for a year.
  • Most of the participants spent the no-strings-attached cash on housing, a study found.
  • Participants who said they could afford a balanced meal also increased by 17%.

A guaranteed-basic-income plan in one of Texas' largest cities reduced rates of housing insecurity. But some Texas lawmakers are not happy.

Austin was the first city in Texas to launch a tax-payer-funded guaranteed-income program when the Austin Guaranteed Income Pilot kicked off in May 2022. The program served 135 low-income families, each receiving $1,000 monthly. Funding for 85 families came from the City of Austin, while philanthropic donations funded the other 50.

The program was billed as a means to boost people out of poverty and help them afford housing. "We know that if we trust people to make the right decisions for themselves and their families, it leads to better outcomes," the city says on its website. "It leads to better jobs, increased savings, food security, housing security."

While the program ended in August 2023, a new study from the Urban Institute, a Washington, DC, think tank, found that the city's program did, in fact, help its participants pay for housing and food. On average, program participants reported spending more than half of the cash they received on housing, the report said.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 115 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Wouldn’t this lead you to postulate that the housing crisis in America is real and out of control when the money you give them goes right into housing?

Is this how they intend to fleece America? Give people a guaranteed income paid for by their tax dollars, so it can go right into government subsidized housing, owned and run by a shadow company that the politicians and their buddies just happen to be on the board of?

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 69 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Honestly if it means guaranteed housing(which it doesn't) then I'd be down with that. It's better than getting fleeced with no house.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 10 months ago

Congratulations, you managed to make people having a place to live sound not just bad, but sinister.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Kapitalet höjer hyrorna, och Staten bostadsbidragen."

The Swedes were calling out this game back in 1972.

Of course, our solution was to just stop subsidizing housing altogether and screw over poor people.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago (5 children)

And if everyone got this, rents would mysteriously increase by $1000 …

Fuck these landlords.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

For profit housing and for profit healthcare are abominations.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Rents are being driven up by illegal collaboration anyways. This just like the inflation argument against minimum wage increases. Prices going up is not an argument against giving people more money. Prices will go up anyways.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

This trope is dumb and you should feel bad for repeating it. It shows a truly shocking lack of insight into even the most basic middle-school-level economic principles.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

To all the people saying "hur dur it's just giving money to landlords":

  1. No it's not. People who would not have had housing were able to have it. If you think that's a bad thing because some landlords got paid in the process, you seriously need to have your moral compass checked.

  2. To those explicitly linking this to the idea (which is often cited but never backed up with evidence) that landlords (and mysteriously no other segment of the economy) will medically capture 110% of the value of any possible UBI program: This is not the evidence you've been lacking. The money wasn't given to everyone as it would be in a universal basic income program. It was given to people who were struggling. Of fucking course people who were homeless or near homeless spent the money on rent. The fact that people who become able to afford housing mostly choose to spend their money on housing just tells you how much people value having a place to live. It says nothing about how money would flow in a full scale system.

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[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (18 children)

The sad thing is that high cost of housing is entirely unnecessary exploitation anyway. Just pass a law that transfers all house and land ownership into collective hands and erases all dept based on houses. I bet the vast majority of people would vote for it lol.

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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They spent the no-strings-attached cash mostly on housing, a study found

They had to hand it straight back to greedy landlords in order not to be evicted

Sorted that headline for you, nae bother hen

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

City with an absurd income-to-rental-price spread: "We're giving you some money."

People getting the money: "This will go towards the enormous debts accrued to my landlords who keep cranking up the cost of housing."

Economists: surprised-pikachu-face. "We thought for sure they would spend it on video games and fentanyl."

[–] GhostFence@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

"Housing addiction: the next drug war." - Republicans/Capitalists

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[–] ares35@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

'oh, they have more money now.. time for it to be my money'

that happened with me with the covid checks. soon as those came out, rent went up--and up. those quickly disappeared but the rent increases are forever.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The study didn’t give us the answer we wanted so we burned the results and cut social programs some more.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Didn't this basically happen like 10-15 years ago in Canada? I remember hearing about a similar study being shut down and the records sealed when the new conservative administration at the time came into power.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago

It's always "this small test just wouldn't work on a larger scale, so let's never try at all."

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago

It's a GOOD thing this ended! If they enacted this NATIONWIDE my Rent might Increase! Because it OBVIOUSLY hasn't increased at ALL since I moved in thanks to not having a UBI!

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 18 points 10 months ago

State Sen. Paul Bettencourt sent a letter to the state's attorney general asking him to declare a new program in Houston as unconstitutional.

Of course they call it unconstitutional. It actually helps people and the constitution says nothing about helping people. /s

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago

When people can afford houses, they stop being homeless.... Amazing

When will humans learn to attack the problem and not the victim of the problem?

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Let’s find out if they can continue it without other states funding their existence.

*gestures to Rafael theodore Cruz at the airport

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 13 points 10 months ago

Texas didn't fund shit, Austin did. The government of Texas is actively hostile to the city of Austin.

[–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

We need first universal Healthcare, education and affordable housing, otherwise the money would go to the leeches(landlords,insurance, student debt).

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There are two types of UBI supporters- Those that want UBI on top of the targeted welfare program, and those that want UBI to replace targeted welfare programs. If UBI was ever implemented, which kind of UBI supporter do you think the republicans and moderate dems would be?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

The ones that would use it as an excuse to get rid of targeted welfare before not having enough votes to continue UBI.

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[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Thatchers plan would have worked if and only when:

LAND IS PROVIDED FOR NEW PROJECTS (destination plan on national provincial and local level)

ALL INCOME FROM RENT TO BUY (or similar) IS SPEND ON NEW PROJECTS

ALL PROJECTS ARE GUARANTEED BY THE BUILDER (no excess costs for any reason : sign your profitable contract but then you are obliged to deliver exactly what is promised or you'll never get another gov project again)

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[–] just_change_it@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Popular opinion is that if you give people free money they will use it on what enriches their lives.

Economists would probably just point out the fact that whenever you subsidize something the thing you're trying to make easier is suddenly even more expensive to the point where there's hardly a discount if one even exists.

Look at the cash for clunkers program. At the end of that car dealerships were raking in huge profits.

In this case if you give someone a thousand bucks a month, odds are landlords will pocket the majority of that, because housing is the biggest cost for everybody who is not already an owner. If everyone has 1000/mo more, they can suddenly afford 1000/more on housing. This may make minimal impact in areas with extremely high COL, but all the associated suburbs, rough parts of town, college areas... yeah those rents are gonna go way up.

example: 4BR apartment? Oh... I guess that's another +$3500/mo... after all all four of you are getting that money for free. New price: $7000/mo. It's only 1750/mo, or 750 per person per month because the government (our tax dollars) is paying that poor, poor landlord. How ever would they survive elsewise?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Look at the cash for clunkers program. At the end of that car dealerships were raking in huge profits.

That was an intended effect, as they were all facing enormous deficits in the wake of the '08 housing/car-note crash. Cash-for-Clunkers was supposed to be a back door bailout of dealerships in exchange for moving high emissions vehicles off the market.

In this case if you give someone a thousand bucks a month, odds are landlords will pocket the majority of that, because housing is the biggest cost for everybody who is not already an owner.

In theory, we live in a large and competitive housing market, such that people with excess cash can change landlords in pursuit of lower prices.

In practice, what we end up with is a handful of cartelized renters all setting a clearing price for the last vacant unit at slightly above what the median renter can pay. This traps people in existing leases, because they can't find a better deal anywhere else in the city.

This has nothing to do with the cash distribution program and everything to do with the functional monopoly on housing owned by a handful of mega-landlords.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Economists would probably just point out the fact that whenever you subsidize something the thing you're trying to make easier is suddenly even more expensive to the point where there's hardly a discount if one even exists.

That's a very convenient "fact" to point out if you want to eliminate all assistance for people who are struggling.

Now explain how corn subsidies had no effect on corn prices and definitely didn't result in everything being full of corn syrup.

Next explain how basic income is a subsidy.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

This is one of mine. I started lobbying for it in 2015 when even all in our group looked at me like I'm crazy. Not so crazy now, am I?

Before anyone asks, Austin is very much so a small town in some ways. Many tech folk moved in for the dot-com boom and never left because we fell in love with the town. We also stayed friends and we communicate often, even as we all moved on to do bigger and better things. Sometimes, all it takes is an e-mail thread to make change.

If there is a pot hole on the street, and the city isn't fixing it, organize a few people. You might find that someone in your community has the tools you need, and someone else has left over materials.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Was this rental housing or save-for-a-down-payment housing?

Yes, as a homeowner, I am plenty aware $12k will not cover a down payment in a lot of places. Maybe this gave some of these families the boost they need, or tipped them over the threshold they needed.

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