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[–] swiffswaffplop@lemmy.world 199 points 10 months ago (6 children)
  1. Greta did get a nomination, just not for director.
  2. Margot didn't, but America did.
  3. Ryan Gosling was the best part of Barbie, partly because of the writing which, again, WAS nominated.
  4. This is not "the patriarchy;" it was a really strong year for those two categories.
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[–] AccmRazr@lemm.ee 157 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Greta is the snub, Margot did a good job but nothing stellar. Ryan Gosling stole every scene he was in.

Edit: and the meme actually ignores that the plot is actually gender neutral. It applies to everyone, not just Barbie.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I think there were a couple bits about women in particular

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was Ken's movie and Barbie was only starring in it.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago

He showed us all we're Kenough.

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[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 78 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Men getting credit for women's accomplishments is the plot of barbie? I thought it was about how expectations and rules for gender identity and roles hurts everyone. That then expands on how women specifically feel a unique pressure to be an impossible ideal of everything all at once.

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

No, the plot is barbie not getting an oscar nomination while Ken did

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Why not both?

[–] doidera@lemmy.eco.br 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What actresses got nominated? You realize it might be possible there were better actresses from other movies?

And maybe Ryan was a lot better than most other actors.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Strong performances this year:

Nominees:

Annette Bening - Nyad

Lily Gladstone - Killers of the Flower Moon

Sandra Hüller - Anatomy of a Fall

Carey Mulligan - Maestro

Emma Stone - Poor Things

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Honestly, it doesn't make sense for any of them to get a nom. The film was good, it was enjoyable, but it wasn't an Oscar film. It wasn't Gerwig's best work and it wasn't Robbie's best performance. Despite Gosling being one of the best parts of the movie, the pickings for best supporting must have been slim for that to get him a nom for that role.

[–] echoplex21@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Honestly the Lead Actress Category was stacked this year. Emma Stone played a very similar role but was far more complex. Why are people also forgetting that America Ferrera was also nominated ? Best Director is also a smaller pool than Best Picture where it was nominated. It looks bad on optics but if people actually watched all the movies they would know that each of the actresses nominated deserved it . It’s not like they gave the nomination to a man lol

[–] beefcat@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Gerwig also still got a nomination for the screenplay, so it’s not like she was completely snubbed

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[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is kind of stupid tbh. Margot and Greta are NOT competing against Ryan. They're competing against other females. This is because of this thing called "categories".

Ryan getting nominated has NOTHING to do with this. It's not like Ryan got nominated but they didn't because he took their place.

This is happening because of the absolute flood of female centric characters and movies that came out recently. There's too much competition. And much to the "feminists" dismay, Barbie is actually mid compared to the other movies and actresses.

[–] Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (16 children)

There was 1 female director nominated.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Sigh.

Still "Esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie" for now.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Also, appreciate the sentiment from the picture, but still annoyed people can't get my name right.

At least it's not "Margo with a T" this time.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (8 children)

As someone that never saw the movie. All the clips, gifs and memes people make about it are the Ken scenes. Nobody talks about barbie presumably because her character and performance were good, but just kinda safe, middle of the road stuff.

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I saw a few memes from her but her acting wasn't middle of the road by any means. She had to do the more dramatic parts and Ryan did almost all the comedy. And we all know comedy does give more material for memeing.

Also I noticed her memes were showing in my wife's feed so I assume there's some echo chamber effect going on.

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[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 13 points 10 months ago
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[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 34 points 10 months ago

Love cinema, don't care about Oscars in the slightest.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I’m surprised that Margot Robbie gag account on lemmy hasn’t rung in on this post. Or are they back to obsessing about android phones again? WAKE UP, BOT!

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What do you mean gag account that's actually her.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You do realize that the strike's been over for a few months and I have work I need to get done now, right?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 31 points 10 months ago

I mean I always knew that Oscars were mostly about hype and not actual artistic value but getting offended that the most hyped movie of the year didn't get all the nominations is just weird. Mattel run multi-million, non traditional marketing campaign and got a lot of people exited about the movie. It doesn't say anything about the acting or directing in it.

[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Oscars have ALWAYS been bullshit. The best films of a given year rarely get nominated let alone win. Barbie made a boatload of money and Gerwig will be able to make at least a few risky projects based on its success. I wish we would all collectively ignore the Oscars because the academy contributes so little to the art of film

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Yup, very often the "winner" is determined because it's their "turn" or they deserve it more so than what they did that actual year. Leonardo Di Capero (SP?) for a great example.

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[–] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Why is he claiming that Gerwig got no nomination? Is he stupid?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Best Picture goes to the person as a Producer, not a Director.

So, yeah, if it wins, she'll be on stage for producing the film, but not directing it.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Barbie was good. But my expectations going into it were greatly inflated by all the hype around it... Which sadly left me disappointed by it.

[–] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

Like legitimately one of the best parts is Ken and his dance number, the director went hard on that and fucking aced it. I don't remember much else from the film and about Barbie tbh

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[–] SloppilyFloss@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What about America Ferrera? She matters as much as Margot Robbie and got an Oscar nomination for her role in the film.

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[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wanna take you for granted, yeah, yeah well I wiiiillll

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The acting was the worst part of the Barbie movie. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed watching it in the theater, but no one should be surprised that Margot Robbie didn't catch the nomination when she was up against actual films with real performances in it. The acting in Barbie is just memeable moments for the internet. Mind you, Barbie being nominated for Production Design and Original Song make perfect sense and it'll probably win those categories.

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe he's a better actor.

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