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And before you come at me, I saw Oppie on proper film. Don’t tell me I didn’t get it or didn’t have a good experience or whatever. I liked it.
I am coming at you for liking it.
The movie was one hour of magical realism physics and wishy-washy centrist political bullshit, one hour of "Y'all know about how my boy Julie Bob O. got mad pussy?", and one hour of the worst West Wing episode you've ever seen. They could have cut that turd in half and it would have still been too long.
The acting was mid. The history was fictional. The cinematography was amateurish. The sound design just made my ears bleed.
Not only was Barbie better, but Barbie was actually a good fucking movie. Had I known what I was getting in for I'd have just gone back and watched the highlight reels from "A Beautiful Mind" and taken a refund on the balance of my time.
oppenheimer was dogshit that leaned into the idiotic "you don't need to learn stinky math to know physics, you just have to hear the music" bullshit in like three separate scenes and I was over it
Nolan should be arrested unironically
His job in the gulag should be sound editing. He stays there until he gets it right.
The sound design just made my ears bleed.
I liked the sound design specifically for this - the soundscape really supported oppenheimer's moral conflict about his work by sounding conflicted and anxiety inducing.
Yeah that’s fair lol. I haven’t seen it since Barbenheimer and my opinion might be similar to yours if I rewatch it. It didn’t need to be 3hrs long and I felt like a fool falling for the “gotta see it in 70mm imax” bs. Half of it is in a small white room for fucks sake.
Barbie was genuinely a good time and then people i was with and i talked for hours after it ended. And the atmosphere at the cinema that entire weekend was magical. Everyone wearing pink, saying “hi Barbie”…that’s real movie magic.
I found Barbie pretty underwhelming and did not understand the hype at all. I haven't seen Oppenheimer but I don't see the point in comparing them, the whole point of that meme was that the movies are opposites.
anyway the Oscars are dumb and you should not pay attention to them
Films don't need to have a certain political valence or whatever to be good, but I have a hard to imaging what kind of leftist is enjoying Barbie, a film of shrill liberal Détournement. And, boring didacticism aside, it was very ugly and outside of Ryan Gosling (who carried) I didn't find it very fun or funny. (I loved Greta's Little Women adaptation and enjoyed Lady Bird, so def disappointed.)
But I agree, Oppenheimer was bad, and the amount of people holding it out as "serious, thematic filmmaking" is disappointing (but maybe not surprising).
ah yes i love the barbie movie where one himbo is able to singlehandedly convince an entire matriarchy into giving up power to men. the most libbed up second-wave feminist slop i've ever seen
edit: also what really bugs me about this movie is that it sets up the plot arc of "Stereotype Barbie is malfunctioning because her real-world owner is depressed about capitalism/patriarchy" and does nothing to actually resolve that.
Of course they can't resolve that, just like the plot line involving the CEO falls by the wayside. You can feel the warmth of the sun but you can never look at it
yup... "oh isn't it funny how all the people in charge of mattel are white men (hey just like real life!) but also the people in charge of mattel are good actually? anyways lets just leave it there no criticism just vibes"
Wake me up when Super Mario Bros 2 gets GAME OF THE YEAR at the Oscars.
award shows are industry masturbation
I thought Barbie was underwhelming. You have Dua Lipa in there and you don't even mention Hoxha once? C'mon
Silly Hexbear, you're telling me that somebody out there actually made a Barbie movie? Then how come I've never heard of it?
Barbie is nominated for 8 Oscars.
I hope you are doing a bit, but too many people are saying what you're saying unironically.
another january, another unwarranted argument where we pretend that the oscars matter
i enjoyed both movies, but found the cynicism of the toy ad distasteful.
Is this a bit? Barbie has 8 nominations including best picture and best adapted screenplay lol.
Oscars are trash. Pure unadulterated trash .
Almost no media produced under capitalism prescribes a solution to real problems and Barbie is no different. I think the movie did a good job articulating the problems some women face in the west but the end of the movie they did a heckin status quo and shrugged their shoulders. If I were a literal person looking to Hollywood to solve my political contradictions, the message I'd take away is that women should do "separate but equal" shit to solve the inequalities and exploitation they face in a capitalist society.
So ya not great but that's what you get when any real message would threaten the system that produced it.
I thought it very odd it ended by denying men full political rights and the matriarchy was so quickly overtaken by Ken and his misogynists. Given that they reversed the power relations it seemed odd to justify their disenfranchisement. I know they nearly did a coup, but the movie set up that plot point.
yeah it fucking sucks. They built this whole fictitious post scarcity world where the entire population of said world has achieved a semblance of consciousness and the best they can come up with is "lets do the same but opposite " like come on.
and you see it all the time in capitalist media. Here's the problem, there's a solution that has been rediscovered countless times throughout history but we're just going to pretend we don't know what it is, gosh what a problem you the viewer decide what is to be done roll credits. It is the political/mental equivalent of edging you just want to yell at the screen el problema es capitalismo but w/e. That's what we get can't have any flavor or spice.
I do like to imagine the ending being they abolish their constitution, establish housing for all (are the kens homeless??), give equal voting rights and at least banish the execs back to shitworld. Think of all the awkward car rides home from the theaters by all the lib het couples. But it breaks a cardinal rule in capitalism to put anything on display that shows a hopeful or positive alternative to what we have. You can only display problems and inspire hopelessness and nihilism in the masses - even with hollywoods greatest imagination all they can do is
He literally nuts and says "i am become death, destroyer of worlds" bravo Nolan
I liked Barbie fine, but I think Oppenheimer is a much better movie.
Edit: The real snub is Asteroid City not even getting a nomination for production design or Best Original Song. What the fuck does Wes Anderson have to do?
The Oscars are just an advertising scheme these days. Maybe it always was.
Barbie was a good light hearted comedy. Oppenheimer was boring. Poor Things I'm yet to see but from the trailer alone I can see that it's going to be overplayed 'deadpan' and 'surreal' in the way that many modern movies are... or aren't, I should say.
Cinema is in a shite state. I couldn't give less of a fuck about the majority of films that come out these days. Look at the success of Saltburn. It's all mindless garbage based around actors with the star power to put bums on seats. I come out of most movies these days with ambivalence at best.
No, it wasn't. It was nominated for a ton of awards, and while I liked the movie, it was not the best movie of the year. Asteroid City was a much better movie and got far fewer nominations. Godzilla Minus One was also a breath of fresh air after the piece of shit american godzilla movies that came out after 2014, and had an excellent anti-Japanese-imperialism message. Poor Things was also better.