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I keep thinking this would have been a much better sell to devs and to users. I have always used Sync, and Boost. I tried the official app a few times, but really only used it for the chat feature. I didn't want to pay for it, but (I am embarrassed to admit it) I would pay premium to keep my app. I think this would have worked out better for Reddit than the garbage they are pulling right now.

Would that have been a more reasonable solution in your opinion as well?

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[–] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would have considered that at the start, but at this point they've damaged their ecosystem so much, and correspondingly Lemmy has grown a lot, so I don't see why I would go back either way.

[–] HERRAX@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the fact that he seems devoted to following musk's business practices leaves litte faith for Reddit to ever get back on the right track again. Besides, I'm loving my time here at the fediverse and will probably start selfhosting my own private Lemmy server soon!

[–] Fubarberry@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah exactly. My trust and relationship with reddit has been damaged. Even if they roll back all the API pricing changes the damage is already done.

At the very least they would need to fire spez for me to think anything has changed or is going to get better.

[–] FrickAndMortar@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Three weeks ago, I totally would have… Apollo was life! Now, I don’t think anything could lure me back…

With Spez’s comments about how Reddit has all this data, and “we’re not going to just give that away for free”, I think anyone left on that platform is going to get sold so hard to anyone with two nickels to rub together, that they will effectively have zero privacy or anonymity… no thanks, Spez.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Had they come out and said "hey guys, we really need to actually be making money here. We know it's not ideal, but itll allow us to further invest in the site and its community", there really wouldn't have been a fuss. Sure people would have been upset, but most would've gotten it.

Instead they have to act like petulant children throwing a temper tantrum when they don't get exactly what they want exactly when they want it.

[–] lrabbt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the problem rn is that Reddit is shitting on its users, sometime ago, I'd pay, but now I'm gone for good, even if they revert everything

[–] Myriadblue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If that had been the compromise, that users of this party apps needed to be premium, I'd have grumbled, but thought 50 a year is worth it to subsidize the costs of running the site without ads using the api.

Now, hell no. I'm transitioning the community I ran to lemmy, and trying to start communities here. Between lemmy, tildes, and royal road, I have everything I had on reddit.

[–] Fickle_Ferret@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hah, no. Are you asking if I want to pay for access to a platform that is already dependant on its users to create or aggregate content, while they are already making ad money off my eyeballs? Heck, no, never. If that site cannot make enough money on ads alone, while being one /were of the most visited non-porn sites on the internet, then maybe they should reconsider their other expenses. E.x. Is it really necessary to have a downtown office in an expensive us city, or pay out high CEO wages. I can only really conclude that they are being stupid about this. If they want me back, they are going to have to beg.

[–] whofearsthenight@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

They took a 250m funding round and used it to build an nft site. reddit's problems are 100% self created. Think about how ama's used to be and how they managed to kill that. They could have had several revenue streams just based on ama's.

[–] Thanks4Nothing@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

But that is exactly the problem with third party apps ..they don't show ads so they make no add revenue on people using apps like Sync and Apollo or RIF.. The official app does. I understand why they are trying to push people to their app, but the route they took was worst case scenario.

[–] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Third party app users generate content that make adds possible. Get out of here with this pitty reddit problems.

[–] ShadowRunner@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're ignoring the other effects of third party apps - which is to have significantly added to the number of users they have to show ads to in the first place.

Making their API free encouraged active development which increased user engagement. So it absolutely did increase their revenue because it helped to increase the popularity of their site in the first place.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago

If they had given us a heads up that we would need a subscription, early enough in advance.

If they didnt limit the content we could access.

If the price wasnt ridiculous - Im not paying Netflix, Amazon Prime, or Game Pass money to access a web forum.

Then sure.

But Spez fucked it up. Hes shown that he really doesnt care about the communities, the people that make it up, or even reddit itself. Hes too bent on making that IPO and bailing out as soon as he can.

[–] WorldieBoi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No way. I've lost all faith in Reddit as a company.

[–] useful_idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I can’t wait to see the market show this during their IPO.

[–] roofuskit@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Lol, not anymore.

[–] AttackBunny@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you had asked me a month ago, I’d have said absolutely, as long as it keep Reddit alive.

Now? Absofuckinglutely not. I’m a firm believer in putting my money where my mouth is. I haven’t accessed Reddit (intentionally) since the 11th. And my original plan was to see how it all played out, and still probably browse only when I’m at my desk, on my laptop. Watching it all unfold, I’m absolutely disgusted with the choices they are making, and more so with how they are treating everyone, privately, and publicly.

I won’t be going back to Reddit. And I’m ok with that. It was honestly already a bit too……money-grubbing anyhow, and all this last week just solidified that for me.

[–] LifeInOregon@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

The intentionally part is my only difficulty. I’d not realized until last week just how many search results were Reddit threads. I need to start excluding Reddit from my search results.

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[–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

lmao fuck no. I was on reddit for 12 years until recently, but at this point, there's nothing they can do to win back my trust. Reddit is just another corporate giant these days, and has been for a long time. Huffman is the reason I no longer wish to support reddit in any form, and they can make promises all they want - I've happily jumped ship and will be staying here.

[–] Aaron-Davis363@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago
[–] phlemmy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

They've showed extremely bad faith. That's hard to recover from.

[–] Burndown@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the reason I left Reddit last week has little to do with with third party app issue. I left because the CEO has shown he isn't interested in listening or addressing community concerns.

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[–] lixus98@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Not anymore, they lost me with all these interviews, spez showed his true colors, he is a piece of shit and doesn't deserve my money. I rather support kbin or lemmy, I've always been a FOSS enthusiast.

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think if they'd framed it properly, in that by using Apollo I'm bypassing their ad revenue and costing them money, I'd see it as a reasonable compromise that I pay for Premium to support the company and carry on using Reddit in the way I preferred.

Now? Fuck u/spez

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Like two or three weeks ago if they said third party apps need to create a couple dollar per month subscription, then I probably would have bit. Now, with the current leadership? Nope.

[–] xonigo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Two weeks ago I would've honestly paid $5 per month to get full and unlimited access to third party apps. Sync was my most used app. After the shit they pulled, no fucking way. Reddit lost all their credibility the way they treated the third party app developers and the moderators

[–] pgetsos@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

If it was a few weeks ago, I would be happy to pay 1$/month for RiF. Now I just don't care anymore

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't go back to reddit even if they paid me to do it.

[–] mrecondo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago
[–] m-p-3@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

That was my initial suggestion and IMO the change wouldn't be the PR nightmare that it currently is. It would have been a fair middle ground: you don't make it financially devastating for the 3PA devs, the Premium users don't get ads so that would be fair that 3PA don't get shown ads through the API and Reddit gets financially compensated for it.

At this point I kinda lost faith in Reddit. I don't expect them to honor whatever they say, so I won't be subscribing anymore.

[–] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I might have a week ago, but after hearing Huffman say he hopes to run reddit like Elon Musk runs Twitter - no.

[–] primaryuser@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

No. Even if they decided to do something to placate us today, they've shown their hand and demonstrated they don't give a shit about their userbase. I have no plans of going back. Period.

[–] empyrean@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

No, bridge is already burnt.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe before spez dug his heels in the ground. But now he's said too much. He admires Elon? Fuck off.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

No. They're allowing more and more spam outside of their ad platform. They're actively user-hostile. I already don't like it for free, why the hell would I want to pay for it?

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

No, I'm done. My accounts are gone. Not interested in starting over

[–] cheeseOnBread@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I had reddit premium although I used a third party app. I wanted to support the platform. I spent so much time on it and really liked the way reddit worked.. being centered around communities and giving them the power to have their own rules.

I canceled my subscription a week ago and will not go back. Needless to say, this isn't a company I want to have any of my money.

[–] JRepin@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely not. If I learned something from Twitter and Facebook and Reddit fiascos then it is to never ever let youself be trapped into a closed-source, centralized for-profit platform. So NO, unless they make it completely open source and decentralised so anyone can setup their own instance. But then again we already have Fediverse and Mastodon and Lemmy... so why bother with that, let's improve what treasure we already have.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Lol no, fuck Reddit. Enough is enough. There's no salvaging that.

I mean, it's not a theoretical scenario, Infinity is going the paid route so you can do just that if you want. Except of all nsfw, which is exactly what I was using Infinity for. Anyway poor Infinity dev, putting their head into the lion's mouth.

[–] kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] MetricExpansion@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I think before (say) a week or two ago, before Huffman showed us all what he really thinks of the people using his platform, I would have said yes to paying for Premium in order to use 3rd party apps. But now I don’t want to give him a single dime.

[–] small44@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

No i don't want another subscription. Never had a problems with ads as long as they are not abused

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would depend on the price, and also we would need to live in a hypothetical world where Reddit hasn't done any of the stupid shit they've done in the past month. As of right now, I can't imagine giving Reddit my money knowing what a PoS spez is

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[–] randomperson@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Some time ago most likely yes. As for now I would never go back to reddit.

[–] Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't have paid for, but i would have accepted much better. "API usage is ad free hence only premium users can access it" is much better than "API users are freeloaders that take more than they are giving, fuck them!"

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

No reddit is dead to me. Anything that is used by ceos to fuck over the people. Let it burn for all I care.

Actually scratch that. Let it pump to obscene levels and after all those rich riches have bought in. Dump that thing into the Earth's core.

Far too much money and corruption in this world.

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