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[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 109 points 11 months ago (140 children)

I guess Israel were too busy genociding Palestinians to make it to the meeting.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 84 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Bro I'll be real with you north Korea got fucking obliterated to the extent that they were living underground because every single building has been bombed to rubble. North Korea was definitely the victim of imperialist interference. No person in that country deserved that level of devastation.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 77 points 11 months ago (4 children)

A total of 635,000 tons of bombs, including 32,557 tons of napalm, were dropped on Korea. By comparison, the U.S. dropped 1.6 million tons in the European theater and 500,000 tons in the Pacific theater during all of World War II (including 160,000 on Japan).

...yea.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 35 points 11 months ago

Also consider the fact that north Korea is roughly the size of Maine and Japan is roughly the size of the east coast.

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[–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago (21 children)

Israel is missing from the picture

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[–] KermitLeFrog@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The lack of imperial Japan in this image is disturbing

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

At least imperial japan no longer exists. Anyone flying the flag is seen as a nationalistic weirdo by normal Japanese people.

[–] KermitLeFrog@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah totally. But if you dare even insinuate that Japan was anything other than a victim of WW2, the public outcry is so massive that you will be forced to publicly apologize and denounce your previous statement

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[–] Ardiente@ttrpg.network 42 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Noob here, can guess Russia with ukraine but can anyone supply the full list for context on this meme ?

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The other two flags are North Korea (left) and Serbia (right).

North Korea began the Korean War by invading South Korea. It didn't end well for them (or for the South, for that matter) but South Korea prospers today while the North is...well, North Korea.

For Serbia, it is one of the many states formed from the dissolution of Yugoslavia. Going from one country to several countries which were defined mainly by ethnic association was not a clean transition. There were Serbs living in other former Yugoslav countries, and Serbia used that justification to start occupying those majority-Serbian areas, similar to what Russia has been doing with Ukraine, Transnistria, South Ossetia, and to a lesser extent Abkhazia.

[–] dfc09@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

More specifically with Serbia, they were genociding until NATO stepped in and bombed them, and have spent the last 20+ years crying about how NATO was the big bad boogie man who attacked first, while simultaneously trying to destabilize Kosovo through frequent Russian backed violations of the MTA that ended the open conflict. Literal government policies of a schoolyard bully.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

South Korea at the time was run by actual fascists, people often originally put in charge by the prior Japanese occupation who helped genocide their own people and kept by the "democratic" Allies because, being fascists, they really hated commies.

It's also simply disingenuous to pretend North Korea's economic problems aren't mostly caused by the embargo they've been under for seventy years.

Does that make North Korea the victim?

Well, not really, but on the other hand, you can certainly understand the invasion.

Unlike some people, they actually were invading fascists. Ones that actually were their people's oppressors, and even to this day most Koreans consider themselves a divided nation and support reunification, unlike Russia and Ukraine or Serbia and literally everyone else from the former Yugoslavia because the Serbs were dicks.

From that point of view it's certainly easier to understand why they would portray themselves as victims compared to people who just want to conquer and genocide their neighbors.

But time is funny, you become what you hate, etc.

Can't really say Marxist-> Feudal Monarchy is the typical trajectory though.

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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

lol Serbians don’t need a majority. If there were two Serbs and a cup living in a given city, Serbia would claim it and ethically cleanse the shit out of it.

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[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 41 points 11 months ago

North Korea - Korean war and Serbia - Yugoslav wars

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[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago (5 children)

North Korea? Really?

The country that had fucking 20% of its population slaughtered by the US in just 3 years after Korea was split in two against their will after WW2?

[–] Arelin@lemmy.zip 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Leave it to westerners to be completely ignorant of history lol

This 'meme' is disgusting.

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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nice post was able to find many pro genocide and colonization users here to be labeled as "idf" or "Zainoist"

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