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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Classless? Having almost everyone be forced to eternally worship one dude sounds like classes to me.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago

Also, not everyone get to go to heaven. Only the "worthy".

[–] fkn@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I think it's more classless as in you don't have to pick fighter or wizard... You can just put your points in whatever skills you want and build novel characters. 🤷

[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Many believe the early church was marxist ("had all things in common", etc).

[–] oce@jlai.lu 22 points 9 months ago

Or they just read what is said about Jesus in the bible? Marx didn't invent the concept of helping the poor by sharing.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

I mean, yeah probably. Jesus was pretty clearly a socialist, though I'm not studied enough in socialism or the bible to say which version of socialist he was.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Including their women. There are little hints. Paul seems worked up about permissive sex going around, the earliest Gospel has Jesus spend a surprisingly high amount of time, for a rabbi, alone with women. James and Cephus would need a motivation to keep the failing Jerusalem church going, Mary Magedlian seems to have made enemies where she is accused of being permissive (every conservative accusation is a confession), records of lots of children of James, and a cryptic stuff about how there would be no gender in the future and no gender before Jesus. The last line was uttered by a person who told people to unquestionably follow James.

History of early Christianity makes so much sense if you just treat it like any other cult. Sex, money, power. James and Cephus didn't have money or power so what else could it be?

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

Jesus was a communist (even if an utopian/idealist one)

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Gotta pay for your place in heaven of course.

[–] ollie@codesink.io 2 points 9 months ago

And also genderless

[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I mean, I get it. But what exactly is being produced in heaven such that the workers own the means of its production?

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Classless?!?! Haha, someone look up the heaven flow chart (yes really) for Mormons. 3 levels of heaven and outer darkness (hell). For those that make it to the top, congrats on being a god! You and your many wives will enjoy eternity as you crush the hopes and dreams of your own creation.

[–] optissima@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Username checks out

[–] Randomunemployment@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not exclusive to Mormons. Devine comedy dictates different levels of heaven. Enoch also states levels of heaven.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be honest the Divine Comedy is fanfiction and not canon

Granted but it is held in high regard by many popes, including the current.

[–] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

St. Thomas Aquinas taught that in the natural law all property was part of the commons and that only human law changed this.

I think the major Christian objection to communism is the materialist dialectic.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

But it's okay because they made everyone else's life a living hell. They deserve it.

/s

[–] Halvdan@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Communism isn't realistic, you see. Only our realistic and nonfictional god can make something like that and only if you're dead first. Now, get back to work!

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

If communism isn’t realistic, then why do I live in a community? Checkmate theists!

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

If communism isn’t realistic, then why do I live in a community? Checkmate theists!

[–] BustinJiber@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So the asshole who posted this claims after we die and go to heaven it's going to be the same shit that we have right now?!

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Somebody has to mine the gold the streets are paved with.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

It’ll be just like North Korea!

[–] Old_Dude@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is significantly easier to establish communism in a small community, where you can see the people daily that you consider part of your tribe, than a national communism where the work you put in benefits someone on the far side of the country that you've never met, and may consider them as part of your "tribe" on an intellectual level, but not much beyond that.

[–] ZzyzxRoad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

Mechanical solidarity

Kind of relevant, minus the religion and customs.

[–] GhostsAreShitty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Username tracks

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz -1 points 9 months ago

Arguably, in heaven all resources are ready and abundant, while on earth everything takes time and effort.

So yeah, if you can just pick a freshly baked pizza from the next tree anytime, why would you need any incentive to work on anything?

On the other hand, on earth, pizzas take time and resources to make. Hence if one person makes pizza, that person may not want to give it to people who simply choose to do nothing all day.

Concluding, this comparison does not really work.