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[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They spent $1 Billion USD on the redesign. Such a waste

[–] istdaslol@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

Imagine spending 1B just to look like the Facebook and Twitter β€žhappy little accidentβ€œ

[–] Cromutorium@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

Wait seriously?

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

In the words of Dolly Parton:

It's expensive to look this cheap

Except Dolly is a saint, and not a greedy pig boy.

[–] rk96@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, really? 1 billion dollars on that god aweful design? πŸ˜‚

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

They could have stayed with Old Reddit

[–] bootyberrypancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They just needed 20 million more

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Have some goddamn faith Arthur.

[–] psylancer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Has anyone seen a reasonable breakdown of how much Reddit costs to run? Or how much lemmy collectively might cost?

[–] UlfKirsten@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don’t want to defend them, but what costs do they have?

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would assume the majority comes from hosting? Then again I know nothing about how reddit operates.

[–] derived_allegory@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

developers are quite expensive too.even though they don't have many developers, it can still be a huge spending.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit as a whole has somewhere around 2k employers (minus 90 after the layoffs)

That's a shockingly high number considering how little user facing development there has been

[–] mikegioia@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2k employees at 100k/year for everything would be 200M/year just in compensation. That, plus hosting and all the server costs could put them close to this ad revenue if not slightly over. However, this ad revenue isn't including things like reddit gold and gifts, I'm curious to see how that factors in.

[–] honk@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100k a year??? On average? Never.

[–] mikegioia@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I just meant average cost per employee. That includes their salary but also health insurance, benefits, and payroll taxes. Definitely not everyone is getting 100k salary, but I think that's a pretty conservative estimate for total employee cost at a tech company of their size.

[–] honk@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Okay...i have no clue how much an employee in america would cost. My comment was more an immediate shocked reaction of disbelief than actually stating that you were wrong lol

[–] sovietsnake@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

When they talk about being profitable what they mean is that the CEO needs to be paid some stupid wage like 10.000.000 a month, then being able to cover employees salaries and then costs of hosting and so on, and then, still being able to accumulate at last the double of the money per month so that they can see "growth". Basically it all comes down allowing a parasite to live for free off the backs of the working class. If CEO or shareholders would earna normal wage, I bet your ass Reddit would be profitable as hell if what you care about is building an awesome tool.

[–] HooverMan@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Hosting all the photos and videos. Paying for that CPU/GPU power and the electricity isn't cheap.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

revenue is not the same as profits.

profit = revenue - operating costs

[–] Burt_Toastcrumbs 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but greed is greed so

Greed > Community engagement = πŸ‘Ž

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

It's not greedy to want to at least run net neutral, though. I assumed that's how reddit operated for the most part until now. But I'm here because it does seem like the new UI design etc are more targeted at growth and making the platform more attractive to sell. But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how much community engagement you have, a platform can only exist so long with negative profits.

It's no different for lemmy instances. How many lemmy users pay so their server can be maintained? Not many I would guess. And I predict the influx of reddit users will cause many instances to lock down new user signups due to lack of resources to moderate them. The ones that don't lock down will be asking for donations, selling ad space, or in the worst case, selling user data.

The upside is that a lemmy server can die without the whole platform dying, but revenue needs to be generated somehow for a lemmy instance to continue to exist. Whether it's generated from the server itself, or from the wallet of a generous person, it has to happen.

[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Reddit in its early days was based around free speech absolutism, and it had subs like /r/CreepShots, /r/WatchPeopleDie, /r/CoonTown and so on. But the current CEO being once the moderator of THAT sub in question.... that I didn't know!

[–] zalack@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Alright I'm going to go out on a limb and say that /r/WatchPeopleDie shouldn't be lumped in with that other human trash.

Every month or so I would get morbidly curious and scroll that sub for ten or fifteen minutes. Firstly, the comments and posts never seemed... I don't know I have the right word... sociopathic? gleeful? cruel?

The tone of the whole sub was much more somber. I always came away from that sub with a stark reminder that we are so so fragile, and our future can get snuffed out by the universe -- sheer random chance -- at any moment.

To be it was a reminder to live more in the moment. Don't take tomorrow for granted, and I saw a lot of the sort of thing in the comments.

A lot of the videos were just random shit pedestrians getting hit with a tire from a car crash 500 feet away. Just totally senseless and sad... but in a way that helps put what's important in perspective.

[–] theCOORN@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i mean aren't most social media platforms(or just tech services in general) unprofitable? like wasn't twitter losing millions of dollars even though it was really popular?

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