Someone shared in another thread that police officers in the U.S. kill something like 10,000 dogs a year. Psychopaths murder dogs. You don't become a cop unless you're a psychopath.
this post was submitted on 28 Nov 2023
681 points (99.0% liked)
News
23367 readers
4298 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Never, ever let a cop into your home if you have a dog. Cops are driven by fear and sadism.
Never, ever let a cop into your home
they can come back with a warrant or not at all. the police are absolutely not here to help and nothing will be made better by police involvement.
Also don't open the door for police. I've seen numerous encounters where they'll block the door and refuse to let you close it. Once you try to close it or a gentle breeze comes by an pushes the door into their foot, they'll violently throw you to the ground, taze you, and then charge you with assaulting a police officer.
Not true, I know I guy who got fired from the company I worked for a few years ago, so what did he do when he wasn't good at the job, he became a police officer.
Not sure if that person was me, but reposting a recent comment I made to that effect anyhow. The estimate and the word "epidemic" both originate from a DOJ report of all things.
I believe the DOJ report is linked somewhere in that article, if not I'll dig it up if requested.
Cops in this country kill so many dogs each year that a specialist at the Department of Justice’s (“DOJ”) community-oriented program services office says it has become an “epidemic.” The DOJ estimates that around 25 to 30 dogs are killed by cops every day, with some numbers as high as 10,000 per year. The totals could, in fact, be higher, since most police agencies do not formally track officer-involved shootings involving animals.
These people did nothing wrong and were accosted by armed thugs in their own home. The dog did nothing wrong and was murdered. The taxpayers did nothing wrong and will pay out tons of money to these people. The police, who did everything wrong, will face no repercussions for their actions because qualified immunity dictates that they didn't necessarily know that holding innocent people at gunpoint violates their rights.
When police break the law, they should be tried on a matter of whether or not the taxpayers are responsible for what occurred.
People like this should never get our tax dollars spent on their well-being.
We should be way more angry about this than we are.
When police break the law, they should be tried
that would be a hell of a start
We should be way more angry about this than we are.
A lot of time, effort and money is spent convincing people that the police and their abuse are things that only happens to those people.
Fun fact about this blatantly criminal police department, they currently have an officer on trial for murder because he shot a suspect 7 times while that suspect was HANDCUFFED AND IN THE FUCKING POLICE CAR
This incident happened four years ago, and taxpayers who did nothing wrong have already settled with the victim's family for millions. The judge presiding over the case has openly accused the prosecution of sandbagging the case for four years and rejected a plea deal the prosecution offered the officer because the victim's family protested that it was too lenient. This man shot and killed a cooperative, restrained suspect and the prosecution is doing everything they can to let him off the hook, down to and including just not having a trial because they think he'll be convicted. This is what we mean when we say ACAB, that the police engage in blatant, open criminality up to and including murder and then an entire system does everything it can to avoid holding them responsible. Same story with Jackie Johnson, the DA who initially failed to charge the men who murdered Ahmaud Arbery. She's been charged with misconduct as well, but it's been years and she's not even been arraigned. She violated the law and her oath of office in order to cover up a lynching because one of the murderers is an ex-cop and friend of hers, and she's being protected from the consequences of enabling a lynch mob by a system that knows that the cops are there to use violence to protect aristocrats from the underclass. Same with Freddie Gray. The neighboring police department in Baltimore arrested him for having a knife even though that isn't illegal, loaded him into a van, then the official story is "no one knows what happened and no one did anything wrong but he died of a broken neck".
The police are a street gang. They get to use violence any time they want to without responsibility, and in exchange for that they allow the wealthy to occasionally funnel that violence toward inconvenient people. There is no law, only favor and violence.
There's also this one from a while back: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/county-settling-suit-over-raid-of-md-mayors-home/1899889/
maaaaaan we taxpayers pony up a lot of money for the privilege of getting fucked over for no reason, huh?
load more comments
(1 replies)
Pretty fucked up, but not surprising... Why do settlements come from uninvolved taxpayers, rather than the police "union"!?
Paying damages out of police retirement founds would be a simple, one step, foolproof solution to this problem. You don't want lower retirement? Stop breaking the law. Oh, you're one of the 5 good cops in the country and this would hurt you even though you did nothing wrong? Actually report the bad cops instead just watching. Thanks.
Require officers to carry liability insurance like doctors
Except I don't think the officers are ever found liable, only the police departments.
The legal fiction that is qualified immunity needs to be banned. It was just made up buy judges.
It's fine when used properly. When acting in good faith, officers, just like any company employee, should generally not be held liable.
However, if they are not acting in good faith, or their actions deviate from good practice, then much like a chemical company employee dumping something toxic out into the environment, then yes they should face personal civil and criminal liability.
For example, if there's an active shooter, and the police shoot and kill him, I think most people would agree that that's acceptable, and the family of the shooter should not have grounds to sue over the shooter's death.
If the police walk up and shoot your dog for no reason, that's unacceptable and they should absolutely face personal liability.
Per the article:
"After reviewing all of the evidence in this matter a determination was made that actions of the officers didn't generate criminal liability because they were acting in good faith," the office said in a statement to The Post.
I hope the court disagrees, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Also: police should have to have insurance to carry firearms. If they're bad cops, that insurance cost should eventually exceed their pay.
Speed when you don't have to? That hurts your insurance. Found conducting illegal terry stop? Hurts insurance. Unnecessary discharge? Lol, your insurance just got expensive as fuck for the next 5 years. How bad do you wanna serve and protect? Minimum wage sound good?
load more comments
(4 replies)
load more comments
(14 replies)
The police are funded by taxpayers, so it doesn't matter if it's the city or the police that pay for it, you still foot the bill no matter what. The only solution where citizens don't lose is if cops are required to carry personal malpractice insurance, like doctors. IMO making cops personally liable for their murders is a good place to start.
it does matter though because if the money for paying for damages illegally caused by police comes out of their budget they'll at least feel that until the next year's budget kicks in. As-is, police are completely removed from any responsibility for their actions.
FWIW, these judgements are typically paid by the city's insurance, although that's also funded by the taxpayers. I don't know how department policies and the like affect the premiums, but I would really be interested in learning.
load more comments
(2 replies)
“ The county offered to compensate Umana for her veterinary bills if she agreed to refrain from publicly speaking about the shooting, but she rejected the offer, according to her lawsuit.”
Sickening
"or I'll sue you and the city for 10x that? Eat my dead dogs dick you insufferable pigs."
load more comments
(2 replies)
the people paying hush money are usually the good guys
Ah yes paid vacation for fucking with civilians and shooting their dog
load more comments
(1 replies)
ACAB
I'll be honest, if a policemen did that to a pet of mine, their aim better be good enough to one tap me, otherwise they're dead.
Advice I got from a cop for self defense situations. If you have to use lethal force, you're legally better off if you finish your plate because dead people don't testify. Be aware of that school of thought, because the cops are too.
I'd root for you in this hypothetical situation. Their aim isn't good enough to one tap, that's why their protocol for dealing with anything remotely scary is to have 10 of them mag dump onto one target.
load more comments
(1 replies)
What's up with US police and dogs, what's the beef? I used to work briefly on emergency services and dogs, no matter how demonic, were just pushed aside if they decided to come have a sniff. Which rarely happened in the first place.
the overlap between people who would make good police officers and those who get a boner from killing animals and hurting women and minorities is 100%, because those are significant parts of the job description
And they only hire people who ‘fit the culture.’ No good guys with guns allowed!
It's just part of the power trip.
load more comments
(2 replies)
ACAB.
view more: next ›