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Roommates who sued a Maryland county Monday claim police officers illegally entered their apartment without a warrant, detained them at gunpoint without justification and unnecessarily shot their pet dog, which was left paralyzed and ultimately euthanized.

The dog, a boxer mix named Hennessey, did not attack the three officers who entered the apartment before two of them shot the animal with their firearms and the third fired a stun gun at it, according to the federal lawsuit.

The lawsuit seeks at least $16 million in damages over the June 2, 2021 encounter, which started with Prince George's County police officers responding to a report of a dog bite at an apartment complex where the four plaintiffs lived. What happened next was captured on police body camera video and video from a plaintiff's cellphone.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 157 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Someone shared in another thread that police officers in the U.S. kill something like 10,000 dogs a year. Psychopaths murder dogs. You don't become a cop unless you're a psychopath.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never, ever let a cop into your home if you have a dog. Cops are driven by fear and sadism.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never, ever let a cop into your home

they can come back with a warrant or not at all. the police are absolutely not here to help and nothing will be made better by police involvement.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago

Also don't open the door for police. I've seen numerous encounters where they'll block the door and refuse to let you close it. Once you try to close it or a gentle breeze comes by an pushes the door into their foot, they'll violently throw you to the ground, taze you, and then charge you with assaulting a police officer.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not true, I know I guy who got fired from the company I worked for a few years ago, so what did he do when he wasn't good at the job, he became a police officer.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are you sure he wasn't a psychopath?

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Not sure if that person was me, but reposting a recent comment I made to that effect anyhow. The estimate and the word "epidemic" both originate from a DOJ report of all things.

https://www.criminallegalnews.org/news/2018/jun/16/doj-police-shooting-family-dogs-has-become-epidemic/

I believe the DOJ report is linked somewhere in that article, if not I'll dig it up if requested.

Cops in this country kill so many dogs each year that a specialist at the Department of Justice’s (“DOJ”) community-oriented program services office says it has become an “epidemic.” The DOJ estimates that around 25 to 30 dogs are killed by cops every day, with some numbers as high as 10,000 per year. The totals could, in fact, be higher, since most police agencies do not formally track officer-involved shootings involving animals.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 122 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These people did nothing wrong and were accosted by armed thugs in their own home. The dog did nothing wrong and was murdered. The taxpayers did nothing wrong and will pay out tons of money to these people. The police, who did everything wrong, will face no repercussions for their actions because qualified immunity dictates that they didn't necessarily know that holding innocent people at gunpoint violates their rights.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When police break the law, they should be tried on a matter of whether or not the taxpayers are responsible for what occurred.

People like this should never get our tax dollars spent on their well-being.

We should be way more angry about this than we are.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

When police break the law, they should be tried

that would be a hell of a start

We should be way more angry about this than we are.

A lot of time, effort and money is spent convincing people that the police and their abuse are things that only happens to those people.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 121 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/police/police-murder-trial-after-4-years-deays-prince-georges-county-michael-owens/65-5b3df74b-8c73-4e19-b40d-5aa5bc72f70d

Fun fact about this blatantly criminal police department, they currently have an officer on trial for murder because he shot a suspect 7 times while that suspect was HANDCUFFED AND IN THE FUCKING POLICE CAR

This incident happened four years ago, and taxpayers who did nothing wrong have already settled with the victim's family for millions. The judge presiding over the case has openly accused the prosecution of sandbagging the case for four years and rejected a plea deal the prosecution offered the officer because the victim's family protested that it was too lenient. This man shot and killed a cooperative, restrained suspect and the prosecution is doing everything they can to let him off the hook, down to and including just not having a trial because they think he'll be convicted. This is what we mean when we say ACAB, that the police engage in blatant, open criminality up to and including murder and then an entire system does everything it can to avoid holding them responsible. Same story with Jackie Johnson, the DA who initially failed to charge the men who murdered Ahmaud Arbery. She's been charged with misconduct as well, but it's been years and she's not even been arraigned. She violated the law and her oath of office in order to cover up a lynching because one of the murderers is an ex-cop and friend of hers, and she's being protected from the consequences of enabling a lynch mob by a system that knows that the cops are there to use violence to protect aristocrats from the underclass. Same with Freddie Gray. The neighboring police department in Baltimore arrested him for having a knife even though that isn't illegal, loaded him into a van, then the official story is "no one knows what happened and no one did anything wrong but he died of a broken neck".

The police are a street gang. They get to use violence any time they want to without responsibility, and in exchange for that they allow the wealthy to occasionally funnel that violence toward inconvenient people. There is no law, only favor and violence.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

maaaaaan we taxpayers pony up a lot of money for the privilege of getting fucked over for no reason, huh?

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 104 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Pretty fucked up, but not surprising... Why do settlements come from uninvolved taxpayers, rather than the police "union"!?

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 91 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Paying damages out of police retirement founds would be a simple, one step, foolproof solution to this problem. You don't want lower retirement? Stop breaking the law. Oh, you're one of the 5 good cops in the country and this would hurt you even though you did nothing wrong? Actually report the bad cops instead just watching. Thanks.

[–] maryjayjay@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Require officers to carry liability insurance like doctors

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except I don't think the officers are ever found liable, only the police departments.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The legal fiction that is qualified immunity needs to be banned. It was just made up buy judges.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's fine when used properly. When acting in good faith, officers, just like any company employee, should generally not be held liable.

However, if they are not acting in good faith, or their actions deviate from good practice, then much like a chemical company employee dumping something toxic out into the environment, then yes they should face personal civil and criminal liability.

For example, if there's an active shooter, and the police shoot and kill him, I think most people would agree that that's acceptable, and the family of the shooter should not have grounds to sue over the shooter's death.

If the police walk up and shoot your dog for no reason, that's unacceptable and they should absolutely face personal liability.

Per the article:

"After reviewing all of the evidence in this matter a determination was made that actions of the officers didn't generate criminal liability because they were acting in good faith," the office said in a statement to The Post.

I hope the court disagrees, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Also: police should have to have insurance to carry firearms. If they're bad cops, that insurance cost should eventually exceed their pay.

Speed when you don't have to? That hurts your insurance. Found conducting illegal terry stop? Hurts insurance. Unnecessary discharge? Lol, your insurance just got expensive as fuck for the next 5 years. How bad do you wanna serve and protect? Minimum wage sound good?

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[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The police are funded by taxpayers, so it doesn't matter if it's the city or the police that pay for it, you still foot the bill no matter what. The only solution where citizens don't lose is if cops are required to carry personal malpractice insurance, like doctors. IMO making cops personally liable for their murders is a good place to start.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

it does matter though because if the money for paying for damages illegally caused by police comes out of their budget they'll at least feel that until the next year's budget kicks in. As-is, police are completely removed from any responsibility for their actions.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

FWIW, these judgements are typically paid by the city's insurance, although that's also funded by the taxpayers. I don't know how department policies and the like affect the premiums, but I would really be interested in learning.

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[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“ The county offered to compensate Umana for her veterinary bills if she agreed to refrain from publicly speaking about the shooting, but she rejected the offer, according to her lawsuit.”

Sickening

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"or I'll sue you and the city for 10x that? Eat my dead dogs dick you insufferable pigs."

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

the people paying hush money are usually the good guys

[–] arin@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes paid vacation for fucking with civilians and shooting their dog

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[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago
[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'll be honest, if a policemen did that to a pet of mine, their aim better be good enough to one tap me, otherwise they're dead.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Advice I got from a cop for self defense situations. If you have to use lethal force, you're legally better off if you finish your plate because dead people don't testify. Be aware of that school of thought, because the cops are too.

I'd root for you in this hypothetical situation. Their aim isn't good enough to one tap, that's why their protocol for dealing with anything remotely scary is to have 10 of them mag dump onto one target.

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[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What's up with US police and dogs, what's the beef? I used to work briefly on emergency services and dogs, no matter how demonic, were just pushed aside if they decided to come have a sniff. Which rarely happened in the first place.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the overlap between people who would make good police officers and those who get a boner from killing animals and hurting women and minorities is 100%, because those are significant parts of the job description

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

And they only hire people who ‘fit the culture.’ No good guys with guns allowed!

[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It's just part of the power trip.

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[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago
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