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This exactly. Bold of OP to assume that English is everyoneβs first language.
Did op edit the post? He didnβt mention specific language at all from what I can see now. Or maybe he said so in a comment elsewhere?
Same here, but it still has affected my day to day. After attending a primarily english school and consuming english media, I end up codeswitching despite not having lived in an english speaking country. Annoys my friends. Though in my defense, I did work in a call center for a while, and that job only worsened it.
Mostly, I'm just waaay more coherent when I can go back and edit things, and never lose my train of thought in the middle of a
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"That's what I was going to say!"
I spell things incorrectly when I speak. I also speak in cursive.
I also speak in cursive. It's so weird that in my head my enunciation is clear but when it comes out of my mouth it's all mashed together. lol
I would say so, considering I write English here and speak German the rest of the day...
Edit: Alright, I've scrolled down and I'm not the first making that joke.
I've actually been told multiple times that I type exactly how I talk! Once was by a boss and I don't think he meant it as a compliment though...
Picked up the annoying milennial habit of adding π to everything a couple years back when I started hanging out too much with cross stitchers on Instagram though.
In real life, I'm not so great at coherent conversational speech. I come across intense and weird and as I can't information process in real time and I talk quickly and without eye contact, it's not so great for being heard/listened to, or talking with people. (Guess who has autism?)
Online I can edit my words. When I have enough space to think about what I want to say and to try to navigate how it will be percieved, my communication style is far more legible- and sometimes even comes across as smart and/or funny.
(Edited for grammar as I reread it just now and noticed how bad it was.)
I swear so much more irl than online, like a ton. I use lol online and some time saving abbreviations (like I won't say irl irl, I'll sound out the full words). Otherwise I pretty much talk the same
I address people as "cousin" slightly more online since it's a handy gender-neutral form of address.
IRL I avoid starting words and especially sentences with S sounds because of my lisp. Literally no one notices but those words still take more effort for me to pronounce.
Online I will reference visual memes, eg. shockedpikachu.jpg
Online I really only use two tones, which amount to "serious / debate / lecture" and "joking / shitcomment / shitkicking". You can tell them apart because the first has sentences that start with capitalized letters and end in periods. IRL I code-switch a lot more with dozens of personas (probably because I sell things for a living).
I spell things correctly on herw
I use fewer emojis when talking. π€·
My internet dialect is in english and IRL dialect in finnish. There is a whole language family of difference.
I am far more eloquent over text than I am in real life. If I were to speak the way I write, I'd be tripping all over my own words
I think my online voice is pretty similar to my IRL voice, probably the biggest thing is that my accent doesn't come through
I'm from outside of Philly and while I don't necessarily have the most strong, stereotypical accent, I do have a lot of the typical linguistic quirks, but a lot of it tends to be pronunciation differences. As far as actually words and phrases, I use "jawnβ and "youse" or "youse guys" a lot less online.
For example I might grab myself a cup of cawfee or an ahrnge juice and a begel for breakfast, before I head down to the crick to do some fishing. Before I go I'll leave a note for my wife telling her when to expect me back, but I can't find a pen so I use some crowns. Then when I get back I'll warsh off my boots with wooder from the spicket outside, maybe wipe them off with a tal, and put them inside by the rattyator to dry off, while I sit down to watch the iggles game (go birds!) Maybe I'll hit up my friend, and ask him "Jeet?" and he'll reply, "No, jew?" so I'll stop at Wawa and tap MAC so I can buy us some hoagies, probably paired with a lager, and maybe get some wooder ice or maybe some ice cream with jimmies for dessert.
Iβm so much more upbeat online than IRL :)
I like making people feel good so I use a lot more positivity and a lot less sarcasm in my language.
Of course it is different as I am not a native English speaker. Outside the Internet it is Finnish with a Savonian dialect.
Digitally, I can express myself more clearly, neatly, and capably (one could even say I feel more sober and not remotely in another state of mind), so I sound like a thesaurus saleswoman, but it's brought to my attention I have the same "mild valley girl idiosyncrasies" (like, I can't help that) along with everything else.
Iβm a lot more polite, and I generally donβt swear on the internet. Irl Iβm not family friendly at all. If I were in a TV show my only lines would be βbleeeeep bleep bleeeep bleepβ
Hah! Same with the IRL potty-mouth. People who I got to meet in person after having known me online expected someone really self-effacing and soft-spoken. Of course they were shocked at how salty my mouth can be.
I do keep my f-bombs precise though, for maximum impact.
same mostly
I don't abbreviate as much when talking afaik
If I write in english its pretty much the same. My German is completely different. I talk in a pretty heavy Austrian dialect irl but I write like a german person would
the only thing that someone hasn't said aready is that i type alot more on the internet that speaking iRL
btw i speak Estonian, English and a tiny bit of Spanish
example sentence:
mitte viiega palun
without five please
sin cinco por favor
im learning Spanish next on the line is German then cornish then toki pona then Basque Iceland pidgin and then whatever language other than English they speak in niue and the rest is not decided
When I'm commenting on a post I tend to use very high-register vocabulary, to the point of sounding archaic or academic. I think it's primarily a hold-over from writing essays in school, but it doesn't hurt that the places on the Internet where I hang out tend to be extremely nerdy.
I also frequently leave my sentences unfinished when talking IRL. I'll just sort of trail off once I can see that I've gotten my point across instead of bothering with a complete sentence.
Much the same actually. For one thing, I decided back in 2000 or so that I wouldn't say anything to a person online that I wouldn't say to their face. I'm sure I've slipped a lot on that. :(
Also, I try to type like I talk. Know what I mean y'all?
I've noticed some older people, like my mom, use acronyms or messaging abbreviations way more than my adult age group. I haven't seen my friends use them since high school/college.
Here's the way I remember history, starting in 2000 when I was 13:
SMS became popular with us damned kids first. Back in the day each text cost a dime, had a hard limit of 160 characters, and took an age to type on a typical phone 10-key pad. So 1. we had to invent a system to convey body language and non-verbal reactions in text, and 2. we had to abbreviate everything. This triggered the adults' juvenoia something fierce, then the pop culture industry noticed kids doing something en masse and then every product name was SMS abbreviated, up to and including song names. I think they mistook it for slang? l33t came and went at some point in here as well.
By this time it's 2004, Strong Bad is bitching about grammar in sbemails, a lot of the cooler places online are requiring literacy tests to participate, and the adults start going online too, and since many of them didn't learn to type when they were in school in the 60's, they suddenly understand the desire to push as few buttons as possible, and somehow convince themselves they're being cool for doing it.
Hence, you've got folks in their 20's and 30's now who type in a sort of casual longhand, like so.
and people π§βπ€βπ§ in they're 50s and 60s π΄ who type β¨οΈ liek this bcuz π΅ they can π₯«
I mostly communicate in English online. Even when I don't use English, my online communication still tend to use more English loanwords. It is also a bit formal and diplomatic, without much use of online abbreviations and other shortcuts.
IRL, it's my native tongue, with a smattering of English words and phrases. It tends to be more informal and direct as well. However, I don't think I use a lot of colloquialisms, slang and the like, even if my IRL speech gets really informal.
Pretty much the same outside of the fact its like I was walking past while you were talking about something and then stop and give you my opinion and then leave but then we see each other later and you tell me what you think. its way disjointed and we glom onto different aspects of the conversation in deciding what its about.
I live in an extremely conservative area, so almost entirely. I'm happy to be loud and proud about my leftism on the Internet, but not around these psychopath Trumpers.
I don't use my country's vernacular unless I am talking to other New Zealanders.