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The 17-year-old student government president and scholarship candidate was videotaped dancing at an off-campus party following Walker High School’s Sept. 30 Homecoming festivities. A hired DJ took the video and posted it on social media. Three days later, Jason St. Pierre, principal of the public high school near the state capital of Baton Rouge, told the student she would be removed from her position with the student government association and that he would no longer recommend her for college scholarships.

At a meeting in his office with the assistant principal, St. Pierre told the student she wasn’t “living in the Lord’s way,” her mother said, according to The Advocate. He printed out Bible verses with highlighted sections and “questioned who her friends were and if they followed the Lord,” the news outlet reported.

In a statement published Sunday on the Livingston Parish Public Schools district Facebook page, St. Pierre reversed course. Citing the significant public attention the episode had received and more time to consider his decision, the principal apologized to the student’s family and undid his previous disciplinary plans. He also addressed his invocation of religion.

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[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 141 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is 2023, and half of our population are barely out of the caves.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 124 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The rest of the article:

“Finally, during my conversation with (the student) regarding the dance party, the subject of religious beliefs was broached by (the student) and myself,” St. Pierre wrote. “While that conversation was meant with the best intentions, I do understand it is not my responsibility to determine what students’ or others’ religious beliefs may be – that should be the responsibility of the individual.”

The student and her mother said St. Pierre brought up religion, not her. The mother and daughter have also said the deadline for her scholarship application was on Oct. 3, and questioned whether St. Pierre could have reinstated his scholarship endorsement sooner, The Advocate reported.

In a statement Monday, district officials said St. Pierre had requested to take leave for the remainder of the school year.

“Walker High School Principal Jason St. Pierre has requested to take leave for the remainder of the 2023-2024 school year,” said Livingston Parish Public Schools Superintendent Joe Murphy. “The district office is awaiting his paperwork to process his request.”

Fuck this guy for bringing his religion into school administration, and infringing this student's 1A rights with it. Hopefully his leave will become a resignation.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to see him fired, not terminated. He’ll probably be allowed to resign, but that doesn’t look as bad on his resume.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My gut tells me that there's some behind-the-scenes going on that we're not aware of. I find it highly unlikely that someone who so brazenly punishes a public school student on religious grounds would reverse course so completely without some more sensible person in a position of authority doing a "U fukn wot m8?"

Somebody grabbed that guy by the collar and told him exactly what he was going to do next: take the blame, apologize, and gtfo.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably, still, it’s far more common that religious louts force their beliefs than not-religious people- and it’s starting to get to the point where their beliefs are in fact dangerous.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Speaking as a "not-religious-people," when I force my beliefs on people, it's things like "We call people what they want to be called," and "We don't criticize people for things they didn't choose."

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[–] fsr1967@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the second time in this post's comments that I've seen the idea that the pushing of religious beliefs into politics, into non-religious people, etc, is "starting" to become a problem.

No.

It is a problem.

It is dangerous.

It's the reason for the repeal of Roe v Wade, leaving to such atrocities as a 10 year old child being forced to go out of her home state to abort her rapist's baby.

It's the reason Republicans spent so many decades stacking the Supreme Court in the first place, to get outcomes like the above. Remember Mitch McConnell not letting President Obama appoint a replacement for Scalia? That had nothing to do with the people's will and everything to do with conservative, religious beliefs.

It's the reason so many states are passing anti-LGBTQ laws, particularly anti-trans laws, putting queer people of all kinds at risk of violence, depression, and suicide.

It's the reason so many states are banning books and the teaching of accurate history. Suppression of knowledge carries with it a danger all its own.

There is no "starting". The danger is here. Now.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It’s always been a problem, but it’s getting dangerous. As in, physical violence.

[–] bookmeat@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably this guy was already on someone's radar and they were just waiting for him to fuck around. Then they let him find out.

[–] Birdie@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 year ago

He was on their radar...he was up for Principal of the Year award.

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[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

The person you are describing is typically the school district or parish’s lawyer.

[–] Birdie@thelemmy.club 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He brought up religion; he had pre-printed some scriptures to back up his argument that she was displeasing to God and morally corrupt. Also told her she was going to suffer in her afterlife.

She may have responded to him, but he 100% brought religion into the conversation. By phrasing it the way he did, he was trying to slough off responsibility.

Apparently other students have come forward to say this is NOT the first time he's used his religious beliefs to discipline.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Apparently other students have come forward to say this is NOT the first time he’s used his religious beliefs to discipline.

That was also my suspicion, though I have not read anything about that. Source?

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He should be fired, and no retirement package.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 82 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Citing the significant public attention the episode had received"

Yeah there it is.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Well, i just didn't think anyone would care! You're telling me none of you have ever destroyed a bright young woman's future for having fun?!? But won't you think of The Lord???

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

"Oh no. It's the consequences of my actions!"

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah there it is.

Sorry I got caught...

[–] ChaoticEntropy 76 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Religious nutjob on power trip backs down because his bullshit is called out and his power is shattered. More of this, please

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Get a lawyer and sue for damages done to her character

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also separation of church and state

[–] EpicMuch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I heard some nut job State representative interviewed by NPR Who said that statute only meant that government couldn’t interfere in religion. It was his opinion that the statute said absolutely nothing about keeping religion out of government.

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

An interesting perspective. Wrong, but interesting.

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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago

"I'm sorry I was caught."

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The nerve of this asscunt to impose his feeblemindedness on this girl.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not only that, but a girl who clearly has her shit together and is doing all the right things to be elected class president and scholarship candidate.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not stating just how bad this is. He worked to RUIN the life of a student because of a single off campus activity that in no way is related to academics. He's only changed course because his phone is blowing up with people calling out his stupidity.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Yep, he's sorry he got caught

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just one thing - if it's anything like my experience in school, being class president just means you're popular. It doesn't necessarily mean you're put together. And pretty much every student in my class was a "scholarship candidate".

Doesn't excuse his actions though.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm afraid that you've missed the point here: life is a popularity contest and this is training for becoming a business or tech bro.

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[–] Silvus@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a kid in the 80's I thought the premise of dirty dancing was a joke. 40 years later.........

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dirty Dancing or Footloose?

[–] AGuyAcrossTheInternet@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Whenever I read such articles, all I can think is "Gilead moment." But the more I read US news, the more I feel like the country is actually starting to transition there.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

GOP has been the party of Gilead for me ever since Roe and this crazy rage boner they now have for LGBTQ+, particularly drag queens and trans folks.

[–] fsr1967@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"starting"? I think we started with the gutting of Roe v Wade. Possibly earlier. I already fear for my friends and family who identify as female. And if the Republicans take the White House in 2024, I think it will just get worse and worse.

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[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

I believe they're referencing The Handmaid's Tale

https://www.elle.com.au/culture/handmaids-tale-gilead-17530

[–] tory@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And why has he not been fired?

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Because it’s Louisiana

[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's wrong with you, America?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

So, so much.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Republicans.

Religious fundamentalist. I mean, the country was founded by people who were such extremists no one wanted them around.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

district officials said St. Pierre had requested to take leave for the remainder of the school year.

Bet you he gets an increased retirement package if he resigns at the end of the year, can't endanger that.

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