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edit: Reddit admin says "this is a bug and has been reversed".

r/IsElonDeadYet is still banned though and r/whitepeopletwitter is still under a 72-hour temp ban for "glorifying violence or doxing" against Elon's DOGE crew.

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[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 38 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Too bad the mass banning of porn subs was a mistake. All digital porn should be banned and the gooners must retvrn to magazines hidden in the woods to reconnect to nature

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 2 points 8 minutes ago

Tragic to see such goonerphonia on the left deeper-sadness

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 2 points 45 minutes ago
[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 18 points 3 hours ago

Going out back to make a withdrawal from the spank-bank my neighbor, Eddie, keeps in the whack-shack.

[–] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 hours ago

All I have left are my Sears catalogs, the lingerie pages are a bit worn out but it still works

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 6 points 2 hours ago

This was surely on purpose. Some people at Reddit HQ wanted to lump in Elon's neo conservatism Christofascism with his evidently thin skin. Get porn banned along with anti Elon subs to draw the gooners to the anti Elon crowd.

Delightfully devilish

[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 18 points 3 hours ago

Porn subs should have stayed banned

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 113 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

/r/theadamfriedlandshow being in this list is hilarious

[–] axont@hexbear.net 23 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Adam was the bug that got everyone banned

[–] gofer300@hexbear.net 85 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"r/smalldickporn has been banned" Lmao, some people just can't catch a brake

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 55 points 6 hours ago

kelly small dick problems

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 59 points 5 hours ago

r/IsElonDeadYet not unbanned amogus

[–] moondog@hexbear.net 63 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)

Wtf? Admin says all of the bans were a bug

[–] ICEMAN@hexbear.net 7 points 3 hours ago

Yes hello, my account has been hacked

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 67 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Chtorrr comments on R/porn & R/rule34 are banned, tissue paper sales pulmmet! However, these are not the only bans, so what's going on?

I'm surprised the comment allows replies.

You guys really do think your users are stupid, don't you? A "bug" that only affected only porn subs and those that the fascists in power deem against their puritanical views? No, you just hit the "mass ban" button before you had your excuse to justify it in place.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 52 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I can’t be arsed to find it now, but a while back there was an effort post in the subredditdrama sub about how a bunch of porn subreddits were being taken down due to “moderation” issues and at the same time porn subreddit moderation was getting consolidated under a small handful of power mods that were gatekeeping accounts promoting newer/less established OnlyFans and other such sites. Theory was that reddit-logo was purging the amateur nature of the NSFW side of the site and making it more “professional” adult content in order to be more palatable to investors.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 26 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Honestly all of the mods of the porn subreddits should have been cleaned out/purged years ago, have Reddit admins take over, and implement actual age verification systems for NSFW content creators. But Reddit won't do that because it will tank traffic and cost money. So we're stuck with the current situation.

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[–] AlephNull@hexbear.net 54 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 21 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

"I was lagging"

[–] buh@hexbear.net 30 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

“The controller got unplugged”

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 29 points 5 hours ago

"It was actually my little brother playing"

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 48 points 6 hours ago

They always start with it as a "bug".

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 30 points 6 hours ago

Literally 4891

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 42 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

“Yeah banning porn completely annihilated Tumblr through a completely unforced error but surely that can’t happen to me!”

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 30 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

At the same time the current situation is also unsustainable. You cannot rely on Reddit mods to properly control these communities for obvious reasons. There's no proper age verification, bots run rampant, that's a recipe for disaster and criminal activity (and I mean serious crimes like CSAM, human trafficking, money laundering, etc, not piracy or giving someone 20 bucks who then used the 20 to buy drugs) on drug and porn subreddits. But I don't think Reddit will ban it, they'll just cover it up better.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 35 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

The porn ban has been inevitable for years, but Reddit did nothing about it. There's no proper age verification for posting nude content, mod abuse, spam everywhere, extreme fetish subs allowed to run rampant 4chan style with hundreds of thousands of subscribers, and Reddit has just swept it all under the rug. They definitely had this ban ready to go. I think it'll be reversed, because without porn Reddit site traffic will crash. They'll just try hide it better, pornographic content is already shadowbanned from all and popular and default search for years now, so more measures like that.

[–] gwysibo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

what extreme fetishes are you thinking of?

[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 1 points 12 minutes ago

I'm sure this was unintentional but this comment has this energy:

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like this issue arises a lot more frequently then it should. Didnt Tumblr have similar problems years ago? How do major social media sites keep "accidentally" having almost 0 guardrails in place for nude content. Almost as if they dont want to fix the problem.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 25 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

A lot of the time, the problem is that when you start putting specific systems in place that moderate porn explicitly, you're liable for those systems failing; whereas no bespoke moderation at all lets you wash your hands and only remove things when it's a problem.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You're actually not liable for those systems failing in the legal sense. As an "interactive service provider", you are protected under section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, even if you are engaged in some moderation of the third-party content you are hosting. It also means that, as the provider, you have the right to "restrict access" to any content you deem objectionable. However, they have to balance this with the fact that they must also ensure that they do not distribute pornographic material to anyone under the age of 18. How they do that, however, isn't prescribed by the law I think, and so it's on a "good faith effort" kind of footing.

No one likes Section 230. Progressives think that it allows for a site to be absolved of the crime of harboring dangerous people (Nazis). Conservatives believe that it allows for a site to harbor people spreading propaganda against traditional values and suppressing "whiteness" or whatever. Following 2016 and Covid, broadly, both political spectrums believe that the provision gives platforms no incentive to crackdown on "misinformation", or to partake in the curation of misinformation unrestricted.

The reality is, Section 230 has been holding the door closed for more aggressive policing of speech and expression online since 1994. Everyone hates it, but no one wants to get rid of it because getting rid of it cuts all parties in the process.

Rhetoric around removing Section 230 is often what drives sites to tighten their controls. Every time it comes up in the media, it is because there is something going on at the federal level. This could be a signal that the feds are going to start this "conversation" up again, but this time through the guise of more explicitly defining what counts as "pornographic" content (to include Trans content of any kind), or to attempt to mandate a federal porn ID system like they do in states across the country. Both of these things might be happening at the same time. I'm pretty sure Reddit doesn't require you to enter state ID information into their site to access it in those states, so somehow they're running just outside the bounds of those ID laws.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Reddit (and all the users posting) would still fall under Secondary Producers of 2257, no?

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I could be wrong, but Reddit isn't a "producer" or a "secondary producer" of content because they do not have "other commercial interest in the sexually explicit material" and are strictly engaging in "the transmission, storage, retrieval, hosting, formatting, or translation (or any combination thereof) of a communication, without selection or alteration of the content of the communication, except that deletion of a particular communication or material made by another person in a manner consistent with section 230(c) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 230 (c)) shall not constitute such selection or alteration of the content of the communication".

[Edit] However, they are incentivized to ensure that they are not hosting CSAM because it is a crime to transmit that material. The language around what constitutes "transmission" is pretty broad. [/Edit]

Reddit hosts explicit content, including pornographic content, but they do not promote that content, they do not run ads on that content, and they could argue that they do not profit from that content explicitly as part of their business model. They are simply providing people with the ability to transmit communications on a wide range of "explicit" or "sensitive" material and, as such, do not need to keep records of anything relate to 2257 and do not need to do hard age verification. If you notice, you do not have the option to say "I am over the age of 18" on your profile. You can simply opt in to flagging your profile as 18+ or flag your post, or flag your Subreddit as 18+. People can then opt in to seeing that content. Which they might argue is a form of age verification, since they state that the content they are opting into is for people 18 or older.

Any user posting explicit material on Reddit though would be subject to these laws, and I think by extension anyone moderating a community that deals in explicit content would also be subject to these laws.

But I'm not a lawyer.

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 56 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Where did that bring you? back-to-me volcel-judge

Seriously though, very funny to see goonicide, as concerning as it is that this was ordained by Elon feeling slightly threatened.

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[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 44 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Lmao how will Reddit ever recover from this? Hint: They won't

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

it was just the faulty automation again, we were able to restore most of the subs but not all (like the trans ones) for reasons unfortunately

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 32 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah this smells like cover for banning trans subs

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[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 35 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It looks like r/transgender_surgeries is back up at least.

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