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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 28 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

Hopefully this trade war doesn't devolve into an actual war....

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Possibly why he decided not to tax energy.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago

Ah, so America will hardly notice.

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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Why does this say 25 per cent instead of 25 percent?

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 28 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

That's just how it's spelled in some places, namely large parts of Canada. Which is likely where this article is from considering the website has Toronto in the name and is talking about the prime minister of Canada.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

25 per hundred. 25/100. 25 per centum.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago

It means you pay 2500 on the dollar. Get tariffed bitch

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 329 points 16 hours ago (12 children)

As an American, I'm rooting for Canada.

But this all feels very by design of Putin to fracture US alliances.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

both Canadian and American retirement portfolios will suffer. i don't know why anyone would root for such a thing at all

[–] glowing_hans@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Trump started it, now is not the time to think how this is bad. You need to choose a side and act accordingly with countermeasures, which will likely escalate further.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

how about not doing that instead

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[–] Dreamless4561@sh.itjust.works 190 points 16 hours ago (13 children)

I’m so upset at my Canadian family members who supported Trump.

I got an uncle who was constantly saying he supports trump cause he’ll “run the country the country like a business” - i don’t think either trump or him actually understand business all that well.

I hope Canadian-European relations get stronger, and hopefully Canadian-American relations will be rebuilt once this fucker is gone

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 31 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The "run government like a business" crowd gets to me. I'd like to see business run like a government. Owned and controlled by the workers.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago

It's one of the dumbest perspectives I've heard that continues to irk me. Why the fuck would you want something that's supposed to do X to do Y instead?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 23 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

My mum last night on text.

"We’ll see what shithead Trump retaliates with tomorrow. The only way to stop the maniac is with a bullet!"

"Have you noticed how shithead has not left the White House since he was sworn in?"

"Trudeau is doing a great job!" (Referring to the presser)

I'm glad I don't have your family OP

Edit - for the kids out there my mum is 74. She's a baby boomer. Some of them are good people. They are not well off. I told my parents with the tariffs coming if they find themselves struggling to let me know because I will help in any way I can.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

“Have you noticed how shithead has not left the White House since he was sworn in?”

I guess she hasn't noticed shithead was back on the golf course a week after he was sworn in.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 hours ago

Cut her some slack she's 74 lol

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

I appreciate your mom. My old man is a crass Appalachian boomer and speaks in a similar tone and diction with respect to Trump.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 117 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Does your uncle realize trump was able to bankrupt a casino? Where they can can almost literally print money. And not just one, but three of them. This man is literally one of the most inept businessmen I have ever seen.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

He is incompetent, confused and weak. Just what Putin wanted.

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[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 53 points 12 hours ago

3 casinos. Trump bankrupted 3 casinos.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 81 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

That's the fallacy that I thought was learned back with Ross Perot. You don't run a country like a business. It's a government.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 32 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure that people who say they want to "run the country like a business" just think it sounds good but haven't put 2 braincells worth of thought into it. Businesses exist to make money. Government exists to serve citizens.

Do you want firefighters showing up to your burning house and asking for a credit card before they put out the fire? Or maybe have the post office decide that it's not profitable enough to service entire states? The whole idea is moronic.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 hours ago

And it's dumb, because, in the end, where is all that profit supposed to go?

The answer obviously is, to improve the country and the quality of life of its citizens, so we're back to square one anyway

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Also the USPS is too busy delivering papers full of ads and junk mail, rather than investigating mail theft.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 hours ago

I mean, America already charge their citizens for healthcare, so they're not that far off from your hypothetical

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 97 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Now that is a leader! His comments underline the senselessness of these tariffs:

“If President Trump wants to usher in a new ‘golden age’ for the United States, the better path is to partner with Canada not to punish us. Canada has the ingredients necessary to build a booming and secure partnership for the North American economy and we stand at the ready to work together.”

“We will stand strong for Canada. We will stand strong to ensure our countries continue to be the best neighbours in the world.”

How could you not ask for a better friend even when you're (US) being an asshole?

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 29 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if people voted for drump because he's like Homer Simpson (except he's not loyal to his wife)

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 126 points 16 hours ago (18 children)

The Trump administration says it put the tariffs in place to force China, Mexico and Canada to stop the spread and manufacturing of fentanyl, in addition to pressuring Canada and Mexico to limit any illegal immigration into the United States.

Can anyone else see any actual logic to this? Do the Trump Republicans really believe this, or are they just saying it? What do they really want to achieve, apart from Trump being able to see himself as a tough guy?

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 111 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

There's no logic to it at all. It's absolutely not about that.

Almost no fentanyl is getting into the US from Canada. A vanishingly small amount of illegal immigration occurs through the Canadian border.

It's just fascism and imperialism.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago

The majority of fentanyl being smuggled into America is being smuggled in by American citizens. It's not like cocaine or cannabis. You can smuggle a huge amount of fentanyl in a tiny bottle. Why risk sending it with an undocumented person?

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[–] takeheart@lemmy.world 90 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (8 children)

Saw a policy expert say it's a mixture of 3 things really:

  1. Trump likes to blame outsiders for problems and this is well received by his loyal base and gives off strongman vibes
  2. long term plan to switch from income tax (scales the more you earn) to consumption taxes (the poorer you are the more you pay for for consumption, relatively speaking) which benefits the rich at the expense of the poor. this wealth transfer is easier to sell when the populace is focused on outsiders
  3. Trump doesn't understand basic economics

source: https://youtu.be/2I1L1fXaYDs

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Lol on the switch from income tax. I haven't heard a peep about that since before the election. Everything is just going to cost more now and I'm still going to be paying income taxes.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 24 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t a subsidy or tax incentive for things produced domestically be a more beneficial way to combat tariffs?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 25 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

How so? These would increase demand for things produced in Canada, not really harm America. These are retaliatory tariffs, so the latter is the point here.

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