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I didn't mean for this post to cause a bunch of arguing in the comments =(

I thought this was just some gallows humor (e.g. "Everything's lovely except that I have to fear for my safety all the time") type of shitpost that sounded similar to comments I've heard from women irl a lot.

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[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (22 children)

What and guys aren't worried about being murdered by other dudes at night? Lol

https://www.victimsweek.gc.ca/res/r512.html#%3A%7E%3Atext=In+that+year%2C+men+were%2Ca+weapon+used+against+them.&text=Young+men+under+the+age%2C-corporate+area)%20than%20women.

Statistically men are more likely to be attacked, robbed, sexually assaulted (in a public institution) and shot than women.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388777/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender/#%3A%7E%3Atext=In+2023%2C+the+FBI+reported%2Cfemale+in+the+United+States.

Men are more likely to be murdered in general.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/423245/us-violent-crime-victims-by-gender/

Violent crimes happen to men more than women on average.

I am a HUGE advocate for women staying safe. I think more women need to purchase and properly learn how to use a personal high speed lead slinging device.

HOWEVER I do not care for this claim that women are always the victims. Statistically they aren't more frequently attacked or murdered. In fact they are slightly less likely to be victims. Bad people are gonna do bad things and everyone should learn to protect themselves against those bad people.

DOUBLE HOWEVER Men are overwhelming the perpetrator of violent crimes against everyone. More than 75% of violent crimes is committed by men.

http://www.statista.com/chart/amp/33058/victims-and-perpetrators-of-reported-violent-crime-in-the-us-by-reported-sex/

At the end of the day everyone should stay safe. Keep your head on a swivel. Obtain and learn how to use a personal defense tool. Be smart.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I do not care for this claim that women are always the victims.

who said this?

honest query. I don't see it in OP's statement. You do corroborate their premise -

Men are overwhelming the perpetrator of violent crimes against everyone. More than 75% of violent crimes is committed by men.

so why the strawman argument at the start?

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I routinely would go on long walks at all hours of the night (like 3am), with headphones on. Ive done this in the US, Brazil, and Europe in all kinds of neighborhoods. I was a 180lb male and I somewhat consciously and subconsciously would put on the lunatic vibe of "I am the one who knocks".

Now I started my transition, down to 150 lbs, dressing more feminine. Still have a decent amount of muscle but Truuust me, the vibe is not the same. This meme is valid.

I'm a cis man and closer to 140 lbs (with average height). And though I don't regularly go out for night walks, when I do I don't feel particularly unsafe. A little more cautious perhaps, especially around groups of drunk people but that's about it.

If I were forced to fight the average person I meet at night I would literally have to resort to using my damn teeth or expect to be beaten up to a pulp at the very least.

Still, the risk of me ending up in such a situation is tiny. I'm far more likely to be run over by a car - which actually almost happened a couple weeks back had I not paid attention.

Honestly, I think large parts of women's fear at night in the US is culture dependent. You don't have walkable streets over there so children don't have the opportunity to walk to kindergarten or school. Over here in winter children are literally walking to school at night, before sunrise.

You do have a shitton of neverending fear mongering. Like, the concept of "Amber Alerts" is absurd over here in Europe, I can't imagine what this would've done to me as a child if I had been told on a daily basis that strangers are out to get me.

Tl;dr it's probably culture dependent

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

What those statistics do not take into account is the different incidence rates of men/women being out alone at night.

Because women feel more afraid going out into the dark alone, they're less likely to do so, creating less opportunities for them to be robbed/raped/killed.

To make an analogy:
What are my chances to drown in the sea if I never go swimming in the sea? 0% chance.
What if I go swimming once a week, with a risk of drowning of 0.5% each time I do so: then there's ~23% chance that I'll drown by the end of the year.
What if go swimming twice a year, but because I'm such an amateur the chance that I drown is 5%: there is ~10% chance that I drown by the end of the year.

Conclusion: even though it is 10x more dangerous for the inexperienced swimmer to go swimming in the sea, in a given year the experienced swimmer is still 2.3 times more likely to drown in the sea than the inexperienced one.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I wonder if the murder rates are skewed by organized crime/gangs. That has a male skewed gender ratio and high murder rates.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 18 points 1 day ago

Gangs drive murder rates. Looking at areas in the US without gang activity, the murder rate is almost as low anywhere else in the world.

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[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I personally have mad bo staff skills. I fear no man. Grizzly's scare me, but no man.

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[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Regurgitated bear meme is stale

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 170 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I wouldn't say I love murdering, but it is a neat little hobby to pass the time.

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 84 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Just one little murder... As a treat.

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[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (9 children)

You are 10x more likely to die by falling, car crash or unintentionally poisoned than get murdered.

You are 20x more likely to die by falling, car crash, or unintentionally poisoned than get murdered, as a woman.

Women are actually much less likely to get murdered in general.

Stop villainizing men. This is equally as idiotic as villainizing POC because they have higher crime rates Dont sink to the level of the GOP by generalizing. The unfair alienation of young men is real, and ultimately cost us the election, just so we can feel better than them.

[–] MildlyArdvark@feddit.dk 9 points 1 day ago (17 children)

I find these numbers intriguing. Where did you get them from?

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[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh cool we're back in ... 2010? and we're doing FBI crime stats discourse again, except this time we're doing the breakdown by gender instead of race.

*if you'll downvote then explain how you're not making the exact same argument lol

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[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 115 points 2 days ago (26 children)

This also depends on what kind of roads you have to walk on - highways suck for nighttime walks, because not only are you constantly on edge to try not to get run over, you also need to walk for miles to get anywhere.

Suburbs are nicer, but the best is to walk in a park, but that raises your chances of getting murdered by a lot so idk

I don't know where I was going with this. I lost my train of thought.

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