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VirtualBox is ridiculously simple to set up and get virtual machines going. Shared folders, shared clipboard and much more are no issue.

But.

It eats resources. The installed virtual machines (VM) run relatively slow. What have you found to be feature comparable - and most importantly more resource-efficient - alternatives for running VMs under Linux?

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[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 9 points 12 hours ago

Definitely if you're on Linux, use Qemu (and the best is to install a GUI to use it after)

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Qemu/Kvm or VMware(Sadly only works on some distros and vmware works best with Windows)

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago

You can specify the virtualization engine in VirtualBox, including KVM.

A couple of easy virtualization tools that allow you to create VMs in a few clicks are Gnome Boxes and QuickEmu, which leverages Qemu and KVM

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 23 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

works decently enough for me is https://virt-manager.org/ to deal with libvirt. its not quite as nice in some ways but way less resource intensive.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I agree. The only feature where I'd say it's weaker feature-wise is it doesn't have any form of virtual GPU acceleration - either you deal with software rendering or have to pass through a graphics card (I've done it, but it's not easy.).

Otherwise, I'd say it tends to run better than VirtualBox, though it's been years since I last used Vbox anyhow. A plus is Virt Manager comes in most distro repos, whereas VirtualBox doesn't. Also, it allows you to directly edit the XML, so you can do some cool stuff that would be really annoying (not impossible) to do in VirtualBox.

[–] cole@lemdro.id 3 points 11 hours ago

actually, you can do vulkan passthrough if the guest machine is also linux

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Under Linux, the recommended route is KVM/Qemu, with Virt-Manager as the GUI front-end for them. You will need to follow tutorials to install it correctly, as it requires special steps, e.g. adding them to specific usergroups. But once it works, it works well.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

definitely not as easy as virtualbox

[–] frankfurt_schoolgirl@hexbear.net 4 points 23 hours ago

Gnome Boxes is about as easy as virtual box, and wont break your kernel.

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

Yes, I just switched to Qemu. Its great.

This video helped:

https://youtu.be/BgZHbCDFODk

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Yea, the installation isn't too difficult. Looking at my groups as well I think it's only the libvirt group that you have to add a user to for KVM/QEMU with Virt-Manager, but the same could be said for VirtualBox as I believe you have to still add the user to the vboxusers group if you were to install it instead.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 22 hours ago

I recall I had to do like one thing to get it working outside of just apt install but I can't for the life of me remember what it was. I just put the error in a web search and found what was needed to deal with it.

[–] Filetternavn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

virt-manager is my go-to. There's also Gnome Boxes, but I've never used it myself. virt-manager is the best I've tried, personally. Both use KVM, so they should be much more resource efficient

[–] purplemeowanon@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

Surprised no one is saying Xen

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 29 points 1 day ago

KVM, QEMU are the most common solutions here

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

https://virt-manager.org/ is a no brainer. Built upon libvirt/Qemu/KVM it's way more powerful and pretty much just as easy to easy. There is zero reasons to use anything else.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How easy is it to convert a VirtualBox machine+hdd to Virt Manager?

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

Pretty damn easy.

qemu-img convert -f vdi -O qcow2 Windows10.vdi Windows10.qcow2

Here's a more complete guide: https://cubiclenate.com/2024/05/30/converting-vdi-to-qcow2-step-by-step-guide-for-virt-manager-migration/

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Vagrant by Hashicorp.

Edit: if the news of IBM acquiring them goes through, I will cry. And we live in the worst timeline, so it'll happen.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

ibm is going to buy the entire ansible-verse; so be ready.

i will weep with you in solidarity. 😉

[–] milliams@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

While it wasn't a requirement, be aware that Vagrant (along with all Hashicorp products) are no longer free software and are instead under the Business Software Licence.

[–] testman@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

As jet points out, QEMU for actual hardware virtualisation.

There is one relevant thing, which is not exactly in the same category, but does somewhat similar thing:
containers
most popular example being Docker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containerization_(computing)
containers don't emulate whole hardware stack like virtual machines do, they just run the guest OS on top of host OS.
so because they don't put resources towards emulating hardware, they are much more resource efficient.
so if your problem is "I'm running Fedora but I want to run something that for some reason runs just on Ubuntu", then you could use containers for that.
containers are mostly used in headless environments (as in servers, no GUI), so running and displaying desktop Linux inside them is a bit tricky, but it can be done.

[–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they emulate just the OS

Containers don't emulate anything. They have an OS installed within them. Typically you use Alpine Linux which super minimalistic and lightweight.

[–] testman@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

yes, valid point, thank you for the correction

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been using https://containertoolbx.org/ recently to manage my "other distro" requirements. It doesn't do anything special but works nicely as a wrapper around podman and does all the bind mounts and uid mappings so you can just enter your $HOME as though you have set up your account in a new OS.

[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 11 hours ago

Distrobox is Toolbx but more portable (packaged on basically all distributions) and supports way more distributions as guests. I recommend using that if not on Fedora or you want to run a different guest than Fedora.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

for running GUI app, I use flatpak which is a sort of a container / sandbox

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Virtualbox should not run slowly in terms of compute. Make sure your allocating enough cores and memory, and VT/AMD-V is enabled in the BIOS of the host. Also Guest additions should be installed. Not sure but that might help IO speeds.

What might be slow, Graphics may not be acceralerated. Exactly what VM software to use, what it works with, and actually getting it to work can be challanging. Installing guest drivers though is probably required.

For Linux KVM solutions are probably preferred and more native solution but more technical to use. Getting graphics acceleration with KVM has been challenging, though may be possible. KVM is used widely on servers, but is not that desktop friendly.

All VM solutions are resource intensive. Use containers and/or native software to reduce/avoid that.

Edit: I myself have used VirtualBox but these days I use KVM including on my workstation.

[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago

I haven't used it nearly as much as VirtualBox but Boxes (flatpak) is definitely a breeze to use. It uses KVM under the hood I think. If your use cases are complicated it might abstract away too much though.

[–] 0v0@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

You can also run VirtualBox with KVM as a backend.

[–] OneRedFox@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago

I've been using Virt-Manager with KVM/Qemu and don't have any complaints.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Especially on Linux, libvirt/qemu on kvm is a no-brainer. It works, it's fast, the setup is practically effortless

[–] Jestzer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I don’t know if it’s more resource-efficient, but when I wanted to start using VMs for work, I knew VirtualBox would not be a viable choice (thanks to Oracle and their horrible licensing), so I chose GNOME Boxes and have been pretty happy with it. I didn’t do any tests so I can’t say for certain , but it doesn’t seem like the resource consumption is that much different.

[–] twinnie 3 points 1 day ago

What about VMware Workstation Pro? Or are you looking for something FOSS? It’s easy to download without creating an account and I found it easier to setup that VB. I actually switched because I’d been having connectivity issues with VB and it took me a year to realise it was a VB issue.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

VMware workstation is free, it's not open source but it's faster than VirtualBox, if you want GPU passthrough KVM is the only choice but require quite bit of effort to setup

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's nothing better than virtual box for desktop environments, especially after you install the guest tools.

I don't know what you mean by "it eats resources" - of course it does, you're emulating and entire system. What are your expectations?

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Virtual Box is a Type 2 hypervisor, which means it's running on top of the OS, and not directly on the hardware.

KVM is a Type 1, which runs directly on the hardware itself.

There are pros and cons to each, and VBOX is a great piece of software, but it is more resource intensive than other options available.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

And it performs very well, especially for gui applications. It even supports multiple monitors for the guest.

For running a desktop it's clearly superior and "fast enough". I used it to run my primary development environment for years.