This graphic is where I found out about lemmy and brought me here!
this post was submitted on 24 Jan 2025
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Welcome, welcome! Great job, escaping corporate pushes. Great job.
Welcome and see you around.
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I agree with those statements if you're just a consumer. However, if you're some sort of content creator, the story is slightly different: your audience might be still solely on the platforms you're trying to avoid.
Example: I'm a hobbyist photographer; I have like maybe 1000 people following me in total across Facebook and Instagram. I signed up for Pixelfed a few days ago; haven't explored much yet, but I'd be surprised if I see even one person I know there. Even if I start posting on Pixelfed exclusively, my photos will probably still end up on Facebook and Instagram, possibly with zero credit. Maybe if I start posting to Pixelfed in parallel and slowly move away from Meta, I don't know...
More problematically, nobody was getting paid to Reddit, But Instagram, YouTube and TikTok are some peoples income, and they really don't have any strong inclination to leave paying platforms. A lot of the truly wild viral content is coming from people trying to make a living out of it.
We are going to have true social interactions on the fediverse. But without algorithmic discovery and paid performers, a lot of people aren't going to come over. And honestly, I'm just fine with that.
I do wish we could get a solid foot in the Facebook door. There's an awful lot of semi-private data there that people aren't getting paid to post that could be free of big media pincers and wallets.
The other side of this is that click through rates on legacy social has cratered. Almost certainly due to bot driven inflated engagement metrics.
Yet the company is still making record profits, well the content creators are starving evermore.
For creators, the best choice is probably to post parallel, distributing your content on as many platforms as feasible. That way, you reach even people who only have one of those, and also lower the migration barrier for consumers.
I was talking to a friend who posts on IG, and has gotten a Pixelfed acct in the past week. They were saying, as we hiked in the wilderness under cloudy skies, less than ideal conditions, that I was the only person they knew on Pixelfed. A few hours later they txt’d me the handle of another friend of theirs, who is on Pixelfed. 100% increase in a few hours. Don’t be afraid of Pixelfed. Jump in with both feet! Be afraid of your Meta incarceration. Join us! We’ll have a great time! @ForestOrca@social.photo
This platforms are really new and it's hard to switch a social media account when you have a following. You have to decide by yourself if this is a fight you are willing to take. I think the best way to do it is to slowly switch and post both places for some time which might be a long time still.
This also happens for the consumers, if there's no content to consume it's hard to switch. That's why we need content creators to also slowly switch. I try to open first the alternatives and if I find there's not much content I check back on reddit but I try to not use it if I don't need to. This takes more effort than just ignoring the whole fediverse thing but I think it's something worth fighting for. With the current situation I think it has become very obvious that social media (or to put it in another way: how humans communicate with one another) shouldn't be controlled by a private company.
why link lemmy.world when there's https://join-lemmy.org/
Experience from 12 days ago from someone using join-lemmy: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35480016
In summary: it was quite messy, they ended up on a unmaintained, slow instance and had to change
That thread shows everything wrong with lemmy at the moment.
"Go to lemmy.world"
"No, we need to fight centralization. Go to lemmy.ml instead."
"No, those are tankies. Go to lemmy.ee [sic] or sh.itjust.works."
"I've switched and now can't see any posts."
"Yeah, you need to ctrl+select English and Undetermined as languages in the settings."
"Use this client, it costs money but it's only a one-time purchase".
"No, use that client."
"I used that client, but got only server errors."
"Well, it Works On My Machine^TM^."
When you've been on Lemmy for a while this might all make some sort of sense, but to everyone else, this is complete and utter madness.
Honestly this is normal for new ecosystems. Right now lemmy is still mostly only attractive to reddit refugees who are also tech nerds. Streamlining will come in time and then the floodgates for eternal summer will open and ruin the platform 🙏
ok but lemmy.world still shouldn't be the default
I agree
Maybe link to a site with a list of instances and their locale?
"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users
- https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency)
- https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU
- https://vger.app/ if you want an app
Feel free if you have any questions"
Those two instances should fit everyone's need.
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Love the style. Makes me think that we should start a repository with original files that people can download and iterate on + share with their communities. Do you know if something like that exists / would you be interested in creating and promoting a repository together?
I made a graphic of my own quickly last night but I definitely don't have your talent for graphic design lol
OP, I know it's not your graphic, but there's a typo towards the top ("redifine" should be "redefine") if you want to pass it along
That was the very first thing I saw and it instantly made me trust the rest of the information significantly less.
I would drop the "no censorship" "free from manipulation" and "true freedom of speech" none of those are technically true and the later is associated with extremist rhetoric.
Tbh i am not a fan of any of those points:
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Free from Manipulation: Malicious actors can still make dummy accounts to influcence scores and there is also nothing inherent in the system that truly prevents manipulative content
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No Censorship. No tracking: Censorship can still happen on a instance basis through bans or defederation, althought those are also necessary tools for other reasons. And no tracking imo also is missleading, simply because everything posted here is public (including up/downvotes), there simply isn't true privacy in a public forum. It's better in that it doesn't follow you around to other websites and such, but still putting it so difinitive is wrong.
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True freedom of speech: Kind of overlaps with the "no censorship" part i think.
What the fediverse is to me is:
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Diversity and freedom of choice
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Resilience against central control
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But how are content creators going to make easy money here? I mean churning out mindless drivel in exchange for adrevenue is how they make their living.
I'm actually doing some research on monetization options now. Hopefully going to put together an overview of the options available soon.
it would be really nice if Lemmy.world closed their registrations and ability to create new communities so other instances could catch up...
link to https://join-lemmy.org/ instead of https://lemmy.world/
Experience from 12 days ago from someone using join-lemmy: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35480016
In summary: it was quite messy, they ended up on a unmaintained, slow instance and had to change
Their failure to do so is inherently their statement to the decentralised nature of the fediverse, that being „Fuck you people, we are the next reddit, and y'all are just trash”.
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I had not heard of loops.video
Just use peertube
Alas, people are flocking to that garbage corporate owned bluesky instead of using mastodon :(
Honestly, BlueSky is a lot better than the mainstream social sites. I'm certainly not mad about it. Not to mention
X -> BlueSky -> Mastodon
is a lot easier for some than
X -> Mastodon
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