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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
 

ID: photo of actor Sinbad in a neon pink frame, he has a wide slightly awkward smile, and has his hand out to gesture asking a question, above in pink neon letters it says: "Real talk!" and in the frame next to the photo it says in plain black text: "so are we going to overthrow the fucking government or what?", with his signature bellow

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[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 15 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

There are a million ways to rebel against the new regime short of armed insurgency. In fact, you are all participating in one of them right now.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Sure, and absolutely, not everyone would need to actively be on the front line of an armed insurgency, but don't fool yourself - this regime, and the systems that enabled it, will never go anywhere without one.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I assume you are, but arm yourselves. And get proficient. Guns and ammo are not cheap, and I’ve said it before, your hypothetical adversary, has been armed and ready for a long time.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Fortunately I'm not in the US, unfortunately fascism is rising everywhere, and arming myself here isn't really an option (I am also disabled and unable to personally safely handle a firearm), but I completely agree with you, and think all marginalised people who can arm themselves, should.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Am jealous. Apologies for the assumption.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

No need to apologise, and anyway, it's not like we're that far off, a matter of months, maybe a year or two behind the leaders in the fascist race to the bottom, so these issues are just as relevant..

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That may be true. I’m just a stickler for messaging.

You can be part of overthrowing this government in ways big and small. Historically it’s the “small” ways that turn the tide and, more importantly, prevent one tyrannical regime from rolling right into the next.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I don't disagree about the "small" ways being necessary, but so is violence, and any message that leaves that part out (or whitewashes history and the fact that oppression has never ended without the oppressed violently fighting back) is dangerous and oppressive.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, just don’t forget the average person who wants to resist is a civilian, so the bar can’t be so high as enlisting in your militia. There are many important jobs in a resistance and there’s lots of work to be done that doesn’t include guns.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No.

People who "agree with you in the goal you seek, but cannot agree with your methods of direct action" or demand we "wait for a better season" are a huge part of the problem, not the solution, and I couldn't give two shits if they don't like the idea of marginalised people arming ourselves in self defence of a danger they are actively enabling us to face.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 4 hours ago

You think I’m disagreeing with violence. I am not. You think I’m saying we should wait for another season. I am not.

I’m saying that successful rebellions start with grassroots logistics, community building and education, which requires all sorts of people. You might be a strapping young person with military training, but most who want to help are scared of violence and need other ways to contribute.

Anyway if you try to jan 6 the White House right now you’re not helping.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah all these angry words are really gonna make them go away huh.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Lol no I meant using and convincing others to use FOSS alternatives to mainstream platforms. It robs GOP collaborators of dollars, data, and agenda setting power. It’s one of many small pebbles that lead to an avalanche.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 4 points 15 hours ago

Damn I wish I could do that.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 4 points 18 hours ago

I meant using FOSS rather than feeding the oligopolists, but I’d say existing outside the US counts, especially if you can find additional ways to starve our economy.

[–] subiacOSB@lemmy.ml 3 points 23 hours ago

Time to revolt!

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

It's like, ok no revolution, how about a strike?

A strike? but my mouth is firmly situated on the teet of this authoritarian regime and if I release it will make them sooo mad!

"A strike, but we will need time to prep!" Didn't you say that when we talked about striking during covid? Why didn't you prep? You have no intention on prepping do you?"

A strike? But who will orginize it and spread the word? Someone's got to do all the thinking and it certainly won't be me!

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 2 points 15 hours ago

The Union leaders are working on it. That's the real way strikes happen.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Nice straw men you have there. Have an actual argument against a strike: rent is due.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

These are all arguments I've recieved. Would you like me to introduce the strawmen to you?

Rent being due is the exact reason to strike. If we pulled off a general strike that went national do you think the strike would end without addressing the damages its caused?

It's what ever. If you don't have the appetite to strike, you certainly don't have the appetite to revolt.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

do you think the strike would end without addressing the damages its caused?

Yes. I 100% believe that a strike would either just fail entirely, or at best we'd get some half-assed "compromise" that would leave people like me worse off than before while people who weren't at risk of losing anything tell me that I should be grateful for their "sacrifices".

It would make me the happiest person in the world to be wrong.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

It's OK, you don't understand how a general strike would work. Literally, if it happens, you can't fail.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (5 children)

You asshole Americans couldn’t even be bothered to show up and vote against trump, y’all not getting off the couch to overthrow anything but a box of totinos

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 3 hours ago

I think they didn’t show up because they lost hope. There was tons of doomerism and despair on the left leading up to the election. It seems many just threw in the towel.

It’s cowardly, IMO, to give up the fight and wallow in despair, and I confronted the doomerism wherever I saw it, including here, but I wouldn’t characterize it as laziness or asshole behavior.

Depression and deaths of despair have been increasing in the US for decades, and the people who diligently voted blue since the housing crisis have little to show for it. So while I’m angry they didn’t show, I can see why they lost hope. They need a promise of change they can actually believe in.

literally so true.

There was so much yapping and shit throwing going on after the election happened over on lemmy, but nobody wanted to confront the truth that trump did win, because democrats, did not vote.

This is the simple truth. It doesn't matter how hypothetically perfect your ideal candidate is, if you aren't going to fucking vote.

[–] kurdunkaroo@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This has been my thought since the election. We're a country of ignorant and selfish people and I'm just kinda trying to live life in the real physical world since that realization. But even then it doesn't make me feel like I live in a shared material reality with people I associate with. Social media has completely cooked a large majority of the country and nobody gives a shit.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Too fucking real dude. I have lost so much hope I didn't even think I had. I am shocked at just how wretched the average American is.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yeah, we don't have the sauce and now we are drowning in oligarchy controlled media and propaganda.

The best we can do is if Trump actively destroys the economy to the point of where people start to starve.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

votes don't do shit. Guillotines sure do.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

both would do it, but only if you actually use them

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Until the voting system is fixed the votes don't mean much and certainly they don't mean enough

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

Also have you seen the price of couches?

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 0 points 19 hours ago

I think you missed the point.... By a lot.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

short answer, no.

Long answer, through politics? yes.

[–] thepenismightier@lemm.ee 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The real answer is to get so active in radical state level politics that we can flip the states rights narrative right back around and get what we want without firing a shot. The beautiful part of that strategy is that the MAGA freaks are already putting 110% of their momentum in that direction.

[–] proper@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did you check with her boyfriend?

[–] don@lemm.ee 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m cool with it, I’ll tell her he can go

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Am wife. I never said he couldn't go. In fact I told both you to go and curb stomp some NAZIs while I prepped the guillotine. If you aren't looting the suburbs by sundown I'm leaving you pussy ass bitches.

[–] don@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Nazis you say? Stand by, grabbin the Denel 20mm AMR, brb

[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

ID: photo of actor Sinbad in a neon pink frame...

Another feature to add to the wishlist in my head: alt text. Something Bluesky is getting right and something that I had never even considered before using the platform. Plus it's a pretty cool little writing exercise.

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Plus it’s a pretty cool little writing exercise.

Not half, it can be a real challenge sometimes! Thankfully there are online image to text converters that do that part, but some images can be surprisingly difficult to describe, especially if I'm low on spoons and or the brain fog is in (E: so I generally move on to an easier one lol).. 😬

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Also happy to see alt text! Are you aware of Lemmy alt text / image description feature so that the image description does not have to be in the post body?

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[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sinbad is a real good Christian name

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sinbad starred in a movie where he was a secret service bodyguard for the president's son. First Kid (1996).

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