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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They hated him because he spoke the truth.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

He may have spoken the truth, but that's not why they hated him. They hated him because he was a black man fighting back. It was breaking the status quo that was the issue, not truth. They never cared about that, for or against.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

The white liberals who try to co-opt MLK always forget to point out that MLK literally considered white liberals a more insidious obstacle to liberation than the KKK was.

And he was perfectly correct about that, too.

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The hero we need. Who will rise up to his legacy? Who among us will face injustice and call it out on the streets?

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Wouldn't it be crazy if 60 years from now we had Luigi Day?

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

You tell em, Beatrice.

[+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

And he still made the biggest impact of all with a message of nonviolence, peace, and prosperity.

Other civil rights figures lived in his shadow.

People these days have forgotten history and instead seek impotent rage and ineffective violence.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Protest without the threat of violence has never accomplished anything. Gandhi, MLK, hippies, labor activists, and all the rest only got what they wanted when the elites were afraid of what would happen to them if they did not give in.

[–] tmyakal@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dr. King’s policy was, if you are nonviolent, if you suffer, your opponent will see your suffering and will be moved to change his heart. That’s very good. He only made one fallacious assumption. In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The United States has none.

Stokely Carmichael

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Anybody here seen my old friend Luigi?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
Thought I saw him walkin' over the hill
With Abraham, Martin, and John

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lincoln, King, and Brown?

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lincoln, King, and Kennedy.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

All of the examples of inneffective people you gave did result in systemic change, though...

India became independent, the civil rights act was signed, Nixon resigned and there hasn't been a draft since Vietnam...

Labor movement is a bit too vague on a global context I am afraid.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

Every one of those had a parallel violent threat backing up the non violent movement. For instance MLK had Malcolm X, There was a ton of violence in the independent India movement. The anti-war movement had the Weather Underground.

History lessons focus on the nonviolent movements as a form of consciousness and unconscious social programming. Liberals and fascists are united in their mutual desire to have controllable opposition from the left.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, look... a liberal has shown up to co-opt MLK.

Yawn.