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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

I believe in viewing as much propaganda as possible, because it helps you better see and understand it. No country is acting in our self-interest as a species right now. It is interesting what different people are allowed to say/not say on different apps. (My goal for this year is to learn enough Turkish to get on the Turkish web and better understand the weird cult that doesn’t get along with Erdoğan - they run lots of charter schools in the US for some reason.)

The fediverse is nice, but is never going to be mainstream. It’s not designed to be addicting, because that isn’t its purpose. Maybe it is for the best to have these small holdouts where you can have something analogous to the early internet - where saying “suicide” or “kill” or talking about sensitive topics doesn’t mean your post will never be seen. These small spaces won’t be bought and destroyed.

[–] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The UX here needs to drastically improve for more people to see it as an viable alternative.

[–] penfore@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I use Sync for mobile app and Photon for a web interface. But I think most people are not okay with having to search for these options.

[–] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Exactly that yes, it took me a while to find Photon, and I'm someone that's passionate about tech and works in tech.

Your average new user is going to give up long before that and never use the site again.

It's also confusing to pick which instance to start with (users need to be guided more)

[–] penfore@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

About the instance choice, I believe it's easier to get used to since people use e-mail and Mastodon is already quite popular.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean, the web UI looks clean enough for me. 🤷‍♂️

[–] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

For you yes, I'm also okay with it. Bit it's not great as smooth and nice as what the vast majority of people are used to

[–] Internetexplorer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

You can still have your comment censored/removed.

I don't see how this is any different from Reddit

For the average consumer it just isn't the same without being screwed by big companies.

[–] CurlyChopz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I honestly don't think the fediverse will ever take off - and that's a good thing. If it was to get too mainstream, eventually it would need to be standardised and controllerd to accommodate the average person, which would defeat the point of the fediverse as a whole. Imagine if everyone started using Linux as their daily driver tomorrow; a lot would be fixed, but a lot of the original identity would be broken

Imagine if everyone started using Linux as their daily driver tomorrow; a lot would be fixed, but a lot of the original identity would be broken

That's like saying: "Imagine every country just got rid of monarchy became Republics"

[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Imagine the hacker news userbase getting drowned out by redditors and bots on a massive scale never seen before. Anybody coming back to the site will scoff at the idea of yet another board wasted by enshitification.

impractical, yes. But the point still stands.

[–] thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 1 week ago (4 children)

From my time on Lemmy. There seems to be a lot of American propaganda on here from people.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I see a lot of Chinese propaganda as well

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

And Russian and North Korea for some reason

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[–] verstra@programming.dev 19 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Do you think actual sponsored accounts/bots or just indoctrinated people?

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

100% just indoctrinated people, lemmy is too small to catch anyone's attention.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You tend to have very extreme views, which sometimes get heavily downvoted. It’s convenient for you to blame that on “American indoctrination.”

And as you say, Lemmy is too small. So maybe it’s just that a lot of people here do not agree with your views.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago
[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Dude. The Russian propaganda flows freely around here.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You don't have to interact with .ml instances, you know?

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you think it's contained within one instance then you are the exact type of mark they are after.

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago (6 children)

does Fediverse have a short form video content platform? cuz that's what people really care about these days

(also side note, we all really should avoid or limit short form video content consumption...)

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

I believe Pixelfed Loops is the only one currently, it's actually not half bad, apart from how barebones and stuttery the app is, which isn't a big deal since the issues are only occasional.

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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

We should form our own propaganda. Not as a counterpoint, but as part of a wider fediverse identity.

But to successfully do this without being grouped together with one of the more mainstream platforms, it will have to be one so far removed from established axis' of alignments:

  • Impossible to place on left vs right.
  • Impossible to compared with authoritarianism vs democracy
  • Cannot be tied to a specific geopolitical agenda
  • cannot align with a specific country's interests

How about this: "Sasquatch did 9/11 to distract us from the fact that Big Farming puts nutrients in our food, and the Dutch lgbtq communities are the only one who can save us"

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[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Not that lemmy isnt free, but just about every instance aside from .world is very left wing, and even here on world just about everyone hates right leaning people.

That being said, you should look up the election posters of the German „die partei”. Their posters, especially the ones regarding Nazis, really vibes with me

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[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

Linux propaganda 😎👉

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