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If you want to hang out or use the restroom at Starbucks, you’re going to have to buy something.

Starbucks on Monday said it was reversing a policy that invited everyone into its stores. A new code of conduct – which will be posted in all company-owned North American stores – also bans discrimination or harassment, consumption of outside alcohol, smoking, vaping, drug use and panhandling.

Starbucks spokesperson Jaci Anderson said the new rules are designed to help prioritize paying customers. Anderson said most other retailers already have similar rules.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

I hope they can make their drinks even more expensive.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And so dies another 3rd Space

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 6 points 18 hours ago

[flat] No, wait, come back.

Starbucks seems intent on showing itself the door. Hopefully when they're done, better, smaller coffee shops with no shareholder obligations will take their place

[–] Aaron@lemmy.nz 2 points 17 hours ago

The Starbucks 3rd space idea has been dead since 2015-2018. It was a conscious choice.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

meh, this one can die.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Past: Person goes to Starbucks to hang out, ends up ordering coffee.

Present: Person isn't allowed to hang out in Starbucks, goes somewhere else.

Future: Starbucks backpedals in desperate attempt to win back customers.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Good luck enforcing the "can't use the bathroom without purchase" policy in California.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 90 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)
Support
Local
Coffee
Shops

thanks.

[–] Dupree878@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

The local shops all close early. I don’t even drink coffee. I just want a place to work with WiFi. I usually buy a snack and drink.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did a support call for a local coffee shop about a decade ago.

They had a separate WiFi router for guests. When they got a squatter they unplugged the guest WiFi if when they wanted him out.

They were in a very high traffic area and had minimal seating.

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LOL

Ten years ago I would have just blocked the MAC address.

That requires you to be able to log into the router first. Most of the people working there don’t even know how to do that. (Even if it’s printed on the bottom)

[–] Flyswat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago

This, also BDS.

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[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 131 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Quick reminder that your local library probably does not follow those rules. Go hang out at your local library instead! Depending on location/country they might have a café too.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (35 children)

And libraries are not just about books. This is a thread I made about the new library branch my wife oversaw the design of opening:

https://lemmy.world/post/21386043

The reason conservatives hate libraries is because everything in them is free. Many (like my wife's library system) do not even charge late fees anymore.

Many modern libraries also offer a ton of digital lending including ebooks, audiobooks and even streaming movies and TV.

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[–] ronflex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Also community college libraries. Theyre usually open where you can kinda just show up

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The best thing I've seen in a coffee shop was a "Please no laptops" sign.

Its ridiculous how everyone just goes and works in coffee shops all day.

I understand buying a coffee, and working while you enjoy it. But once you're done, and your work is saved gtfo.

We need more third spaces.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People are also desperately lonely and isolated. They hang out in coffee shops just to have other living humans around them- even if they're not actively interacting.

We are all alone, together.

[–] SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago

Grind the rich into coffee?

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I troubleshoot a VPN connection for a man who does his work from a Dunkin at least once a week. He doesn't even drink coffee or eat donuts. He just hangs out there and works until his VPN breaks.

[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Starbucks coffee isn't even good anyway. But without more coworking spaces or some other alternative people like me will occasionally be forced to work from one for one reason or another. In the towns around military bases especially you frequently see spouses of those who work on base in Starbucks doing their remote work since it's the only possible place they can work from if they were staying in a hotel the night before.

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a café though... Isn't this normal for a café?

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yeah. But now they don't have any advantages over other cafés. Except the fact that their coffees basically double as a rich snack I guess.

[–] Dupree878@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

A lot of places don’t just have cafés. Starbucks is about the only place in town with WiFi and a place to hang out

[–] BenReilly97@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure, if you like burned coffee.

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hanging out in Libraries is free! I've gone in just for the AC.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Targeting the growing homeless population. Don't let it confuse you for anything else.

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[–] frunch@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"Hey, look at us--we're the new public hangout, everyone's invited"

Expands into an empire dotting the entire country

"Sorry poors--paying customers only, please."

Embrace, extend, extinguish all over again 🎉

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just put a CC reader on the bathroom door.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Then put a Starbucks in the restroom.

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