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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 207 points 1 week ago (8 children)

It's wild that the U.K. doesn't teach the Odyssey, I thought their whole thing was stealing other peoples' culture and pretending they owned it now.

[–] Lemming421@lemmy.world 117 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Shakespeare invented literature, so clearly there’s no value in teaching anything from before him…

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 99 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You haven't experienced Shakespeare unless you read it in the original klingon.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] ScrollerBall@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Well Greece wasn't ever a British colony, so they didn't have as many opportunities to steal artifacts and culture as they did with, say, Egypt or India

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've heard of Assassin's Creed Odyssey, does that count?

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

That translation has fallen out of favor with contemporary scholars but you get the gist.

[–] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Just looked it up, the Odyssey can be taught in the UK but it is rarely chosen because Shakespeare is easier to teach and students who pick Shakespeare get better grades on average.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We don't like to brag about it but we fought the Brits in the War of 1812, one of the things we took from England was Greek literature. In turn, we Americans lost the definition of jams vs jelly and the superior spelling of "colour".

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Is it even taught in the US? 🤔

I didn't read it for school. I just liked reading and had this gnarly book featuring all the greatest hits of Greek mythology growing up.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] casmael@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago

…………..I did the odyssey at various points man I think the guy in the tweet is just Polyphemus or smthn like ‘I don’t know who this nobody guy is, ain’t never heard of no odyssey before bro’

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 112 points 1 week ago (4 children)

When the only Homer they know is Homer Simpson.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 week ago

Fun fact: the voice actor for Homer Simpson also voiced Homer (the Greek one) in the Disney Hercules animated series.

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The world doesn't revolve around America, but you'll see idiots in Bumbfuck, Romania talking about Soros and wokeism. It's got to be exhausting.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Soros is a Hungarian Jew who survived the Holocaust and moved to America afterwards btw, so when someone from the Balkans is complaining about him it's not ignorance, it means something very specific.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Even more of a Nazi dog whistle than when the American right does it? I guess that would make it a Nazi Air Horn

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[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 75 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As an American, I am going to dine on this single example as if it disproves the idea that we are insular and provincial hicks for the next decade.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 1 week ago (5 children)

nah, it just proves that brits are as stupid as you are, which is, tbh, is not a surprise /s

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We had Brexit. We can’t say nothing.

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[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The problem is, I have this big bag of stones in my glass house, and I want to throw them at the UK for being dumb, but if I do, I also have to admit the US education system is trash.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'll throw that stone for you

The British education system is almost as bad as the American education system. The biggest difference between our cultures is that a lot of Americans are willing to point out how incredibly racist our country is

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's not just slavery minimization. A lot of far right Americans have taken over local school boards to ban books that talk about gay people existing or the fact that sex is something that happens, among other nefarious purposes. And a religious organization in Texas writes pretty much all the textbooks used across the country. It can't be this bad in the UK can it?

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I mean, I have no qualms with recognizing the US education system is garbage... It gives me more fire to try to improve it.

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[–] _chris@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be fair, the only people left on Xitter are idiots

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

$10 says the dipshit in question did a frantic google, saw 'ulysses' and went james joyce.

[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You haven't experienced The Odyssey until you've read it in its original Klingon.

[–] WilloftheWest 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Liam’s a tool. UK schools absolutely do teach the Odyssey, and have done so at least as far back as my youth.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

most of the time someone says something wasnt taught in school its because that person straight up didnt pay attention in class

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[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Illiad and the Odyssey are classics and hardly American culture. They are western culture as a whole. No idea what the drama is about but some dude not knowing what the Odyssey is, is the same as not knowing any other classic. (There are too many to count, but not knowing the most popular ones are is like not knowing the titanic sank.) (Spoilers)

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

That's the joke.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (14 children)

I have to admit that I have not read the Illias or the Odyssey in school, either. We were made read books in school intendet to make children shy away from books, so they won't touch any of them after school ever again.

Luckily I had read loads of good books by that time, so I knew that only a few are as horrible as the ones they made us read in school.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There are basic versions of these stories with big drawings, mostly made for kids. Basically manga. When i was a kid(in Greece), 35 years ago, i had this

https://www.stratikis.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/iliada-nea.jpg

This is Iliad and it was cooler than Odyssey. Badass dudes with almost divine powers fighting other dudes and entire armies on their own, while Gods are taking sides and fucking things up. Isnt that shonen.

Odyssey's ending was cool though, even if it was a bit sad.

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[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

The Illiad was like the Bible before the Bible.

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[–] R3D4CT3D@midwest.social 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

is this why the miniseries is trending on some torrent sites?? haha!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odyssey_(1997_miniseries)

[–] Lighttrails@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It was also just announced that Christopher Nolan’s next film will be the Odyssey

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[–] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait.. some people don't know the Odyssey?

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[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 20 points 1 week ago

"the world doesn't revolve around your country"country Said the user from UK.

Silly anglophone countries, the world actually revolves around the chad mediterranean

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

What! He never saw Wishbone’s the Odyssey?

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The American version has more Laser-shark-launching gun-swords though fewer exposed boobs.

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[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago

Just play "Age of Mythology". Duh.

[–] Master@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Its not even that great of a mini van. You can get better for cheaper!

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