How does one address the paradox that, as JSON itself is evil, one cannot use it for evil?
(opinions may vary on the above; but it's mine, so nyah nyah.)
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It's less evil than XML or YAML
XML is ok for complex docs where you have a detailed structure and relationships. JSON is good for simple objects. YAML is good for being something to switch to for the illusion of progress.
Meh. I just wish XML was easier to parse. I have to shuttle a lot of XML data back and forth. As far as I can tell, the only way to query the data is to download a whole engine to run a special query language, and that doesn't really integrate into any of my workflows. JSON retains the hierarchy and is trivially parsed in almost any programming language. I bet a JSON file containing the exact same data would be much smaller also, since you don't list each tag twice.
There are parsing libraries, maybe not as many or as open, but they exist.
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YAML is (mostly) a superset of JSON. Is the face hugger any less evil than the alien bursting out of your chest?
It's got enough serious flaws and quirks that I can feel smug hating on it. JSON is far from perfect, but overall it's the least worst of human-readable formats.
Only Python manages to get away with syntactical indentation.
The complaints about yaml's quirks (no evaluating to false, implicit strings, weird number formats, etc.) are valid in theory but I've never encountered them causing any real-life issues.
no doesn't become false, it becomes Norway, and when converted to a boolean, Norway is true. The reason's because one on YAML's native types is an ISO country code enum, and if you tell a compliant YAML implementation to load a file without giving it a schema, that type has higher priority than string. If you then call a function that converts from native type to string, it expands the country code to the country name, and a function that coerces to boolean makes country codes true.
The problem's easy to avoid, though. You can just specify a schema, or use a function that grabs a string/bool directly instead of going via the assumed type first.
The real problem with YAML is how many implementations are a long way from being conformant, and load things differently to each other, but that situation's been improving.
It's still using the lesser of 3 evils, we need a fourth human readable data interchange format.
"Problem: There are ~~3~~ 4 standards
Obligatory xkcd
>TOML has entered the channel
Any human-readable format compatible with JSON is inevitably going to be used as an interchange format...
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Spoilsports. Next they'll be telling me I can't use apple software in the development, design, manufacture, or production of nuclear, missile, or chemical or biological weapons.
Me buying my first IBM ThinkPad online:
IBM: are you planning to use this ThinkPad to produce weapons of mass destruction?
Me: I wasn't before, but now I'm curious
So if I use it to draw a rocket, I'm violating its license?
If its a design for something you plan to build then all your software is going to turn into buggy java applets and Tim Apple will give you a wet willy the next time you're trying to look cool. It's right there in the license.
Ah, the ambiguity of words - the definition of "evil" lies in the eye of the beholder.
Well then we just kill all the Beholders and voila, no more evil.
I mean... Missiles and rockets aren't the same thing...
Not every missile is a rocket, but every rocket is a missile.
Exactly
I specifically remember being in elementary school and learning that the school code of conduct disallowed "throwing of missiles" which was a blanket term for any item that the school deemed should not have been thrown including snowballs
Redstone/Mercury has entered the chat
Wow, when did minecraft add other planets?
There's a number of mods that add space travel. Ad Astra is the most recent one
I'll be downloading this one
The FSF also lists any software as non-free which uses the beer license (use the software in any way you want, and should you ever meet the author, pay them a beer).
I can't stand beer - is there a rum & Coke license?
Is it really contrarian to like the FSF these days? I mean people seem to hate Stallman too but both are pretty important in the history and continuing existence of free software.
The four essential freedoms are in my view as important as the FSF says, and any license that doesn't meet all four will be met with skepticism from me absolutely.
Also, the GPL is a real, legal license, and even if there's a silly clause that causes it to be incompatible, that's still a legal liability - of course they have to take it seriously.
I thought it was free as in speech not free as in beer? So if it costs a beer then isn't it still free (as in speech)? Or is this a OSI vs FSF difference?
I was thinking the same thing, does anyone have any context as to why the Beer license is not considered free? If I'm to guess it probably has something to do with copyleft-restrictions (or lack thereof).
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Everybody gangsta with the "don't be evil" clause until the authors turn out to be a nutjob who thinks trans people are blights against God and must be exterminated.
I doubt (or at least hope) that that's not what they think, but hopefully that illustrates why the clause is dumb.
100%, and it doesn't seem to lay out a legal definition of "good" so it's actually worse than useless - it's ambiguous.
can we please pronounce that evil in a British accent: ivil