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[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I read an interesting article a while back. Rather long but one of the key points was previously spices were expensive and only available to the upper class, and were used in their foods fairly extensively. As spices became more affordable to lower classes they were used, but then the upper class haute cuisine stopped using them because they’d lost their exclusivity. Instead they focused on techniques to highlight a food’s inherent flavor, particularly with things like meat.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Interesting. Certainly tracks with other culinary trends, though! Like lobster, which had a reverse journey - in the 19th century, when it was dirt-common, it was fed to prisoners, and prisoners complained about it. Nowadays? There are people who'd gladly go to prison if it meant free lobster several times a week, lmao.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

I think the difference there is widely available large quantities of butter.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Mate, you should have some UK food that isn't white man comfort food straight from the freezer. We're a multicultural society now.

First of all, whilst everyone knows about the Anglicisation of Indian curry into the Chicken Tikka Masala, fewer know about the Indianisation of the Full English Breakfast and my GOD is it tasty.

Second; Roast Dinner. Enough said.

Third, if you find yourself in a UK city like London, Birmingham, or Manchester and want a simple meal, look for a Fried Chicken shop that has a huge queue that is ethically diverse. Guaranteed to be a thick chicken burger dripping with sensational spice.

Like seriously, we've had people from food tiktok travel all the way from London to try Miami Crispy in Manchester.

That's just three examples.

There's good and well seasoned food in the UK, you just have to know where to find it, and your best bet is looking for cuisine that is the legacy of empire and immigration that's been adopted by the local population. You know, like how all the best food you can find in the US is either from Italian or Mexican heritage.

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

like how all the best food you can find in the US

I'm always saying the biggest argument for diversity is food.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Someone drove 200 miles? Laughs in American

[–] Luckaneer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Pretty far to get fried chicken though

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Must be a Tuesday.

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[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, fish and chips is perfect just the way it is. And as for beans... Well this is Lemmy, is it not?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What really astounds me is bangers and mash with absolutely no spices in the sausage, not even pepper. And yet sometimes that really hits the spot. (caveat: I usually lay on the HP sauce.)

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Potatoes demand pepper.

[–] manicdave 3 points 2 months ago

You need gravy thick enough to hold the fork up for proper bangers and mash

[–] Mr_Blott 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This ancient meme brought to you by the people who think their food tastes better simply due to the vast amounts of salt, butter and high fructose corn syrup

Fuckin brave way to eat when you can't afford a heart attack 😂😂

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago

This meme is older than the silk road.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

This ancient meme brought to you by the people who think their food tastes better simply due to the vast amounts of salt, butter and high fructose corn syrup

You forgot the deep-frying 💪💪💪💪💪

[–] Zip2 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Who replaced the chips with french fries???

Get out, and stay out.

[–] Blackmist 5 points 2 months ago

We'll 'ave none of that foreign muck round 'ere!

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I (only having left the US once) thought that "chips" was the British word for french fries (or you could reverse that).

What's the difference?

[–] Zip2 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Chips are like fries American cousins.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The answer is appreciated but, unfortunately, I don't know what that means.

[–] Blackmist 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Well, thank you for the edification.

They sound like fried yucca, so I'm in favor.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Chips for eating with fish should be substantially thicker, to the point of having a noticeably soft core while crunchy on the outside.

Chips 'cut in the French style' (as seen here) just means cutting them thinner.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Ah, that does indeed sound like steak fries. Thank you.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

British chips are what I would call wedges.

[–] nuggsy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I can see where your coming from, but wedges are the bigger fatter cousins of chips, usually with some potato skin still on display, and are excellently paired with some sour cream and sweet chilli sauce and I want some...

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[–] MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Americans allegedly have access to the best education in the world, yet constantly post inane unoriginal shitposts like this.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Americans allegedly have access to the best education in the world,

What horrible lies foreigners tell!

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have access to in the sense that the schools are there, but so far out of your price range, you get heart palpitations standing near them.

Which triggers your health insurance premiums to rise.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Stop, you're making my student loans ache

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They have brown sauce, whose initial purpose was as proof of having access to ingredients from both India and the Caribbean

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

it also contains the most flavour out of any condiment ever made

[–] brap@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And some clown even got the flag upside down.

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[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They were very good about not getting high on their own supply.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

This is more historic than a meme, the majority of those “Spices” were addictive drugs.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

A good dealer knows you never get high on your own supply.

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Some of the spices that are used in ketchup and/or baked bean tomato sauce include: allspice, cayenne, cassia, cinnamon, cloves, ginger, mustard, paprika, and pepper.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

What do you think tea is made of? Rocks?

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