Well the last good windows is dead.
Once windows 10 is dead I am full Linux, I have already begun the transition, any time I have to install a new Os it’s now fedora 40.
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Fedora 41 is the newest now
No reason not to go now.
Time, my last hold out is my main gaming rig, I have it set up exactly as I want it and I don’t want to rewrite the entire thing.
TBF an online Windows 7 copy is just asking to be Hacked given Microsoft support ended in 2020 and security updates after that required a paid subscription which ended in 2023.
Pulls support or bricks the program on those systems? There's a difference.
Valve pulled support for Steam at the start of January 2024 for Windows 7/8. I thought that was the end, but apparently it actually just meant "Steam may still run but we don't support it in any way". Which surprised me when I booted up the old Windows 7 PC a few months ago and discovered that Steam still ran and seemed to work.
Apparently this update is actually incompatible and now Steam won't run at all.
It's probably the inbuilt browser component that seems to be in everything these days.
Chrome pulled support for Win 7 and 8 ages ago, so anything that relies on an up to date browser is sure to follow.
Oof thank you though
Well W7 is practically 15 years old, and already stopped receiving updates itself. It's not really up to Steam to keep it up and running ~~even~~ especially if Microsoft no longer bothers to update the OS, it would just get more and more problematic, and they also had to let it go at some point.
I don't think anyone cares about W8 though, even Microsoft itself barely seemed to put effort in making it work.
To be fair, it's not just a steam thing. My understanding of the situation is that chromium is dropping win7 support so anything using chromium will stop working on older operating system.
Steam uses the Chromium embedded framework in case anyone doesn't know. This renders the web pages in the Steam client. As mentioned, there's no point in Valve maintaining the code base themselves when upstream Chromium drops support for 7.
This is similar to when browsers dropped support for Flash. Adobe stopped developing it and the major browser vendors removed their in-house flash plugins.
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The title of that article is kind of weird. It's just wrong to claim they are dead for gaming because of a lack of steam.
Anyone can just get Witcher 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Stardew Valley, or Anno 2070 from GoG and for each of them you can game for another 50 hours without needing steam. Or get Minecraft from their page directly and play for 100 hours. This is all without going to any retro titles.
If you hate Windows 11 and don’t mind tinkering, I’d almost think Linux would be a better option especially if your preference is for retro games.
I've tinkered plenty even when using Windows haha. I even have a Windows 98 and Windows XP virtual machine for some old things, but everything I care about seems to have a modern HD release, a userpatch or can be hooked with dxwnd, so I don't use them anymore at the moment.
But yeah probably the long term solution is Linux. Personally I wouldn't run Windows 7 anymore. The unfixed CVE list has become quite long. I just went checking for the above titles out of principle, because I don't like this conflation of PC gaming with only Steam.
I still haven't made the jump to gaming on Linux, unfortunately. Although I've been running a dual boot for the last 8 years or so, because I used Linux for my studies, use it for my work, and for hosting my game servers on a second computer, so I would be in a prime position... but so far I have just gone the way of least resistance, which is still Windows 10 at the moment.
But I have a deadline now: October 2025. Just need to figure out the best distro, I don't think I'll use my existing Fedora KDE install for this. Maybe Arch, or one of these new immutable distros, that might be neat for when different games require different versions of libraries.
You need to tweak a lot to get latest minecraft java version running on Windows7
Ah sorry I hadn't heard that they switched to Java 21 with 1.20.5
Minecraft is about to be a retro title.
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RIP Win7. You did what no other Windows could do. You had functioning components.
Kinda weird of me to be throwing this out there as a longtime Linux user, but TBF XP was quite good too, maybe even better for its time than 7.
Win 7 really was the best of them all.
XP.
Fight me.
Vista, followed by XP.
It's surreal reading comments pining for win7/8. i am getting old.
This is what game launchers looked like in my day.
If I wanted a different game I'd put in a different tape!
It's surreal reading comments pining for win7
Oh no they've been in a coma since 2012!
I jest, but seriously I was in HS personally while whinging about 8 and wanting 7 back after my laptop auto updated on me like a jackass. Its actually the event that lead to me learning IT!
Windows 8 is actually great. It's the last efficient OS from Microsoft. I mean, you can actually be surfing on the internet and have 4 GBs of RAM and you're actually having a good time? By good I mean like 2.5 GB used with the browser open.
Well apparently you could before windows 10, or there's something wrong with my laptop but it's always chuggin along after boot at like 3.25 Gb used easy.
Maybe it's because all the fancy x86 emulation it does is actually pretty RAM hungry too. Oh well.
(It's a Samsung Galaxy book go. They're dirt cheap! And I actually quite like it, it's been my main computer for a few years now actually. )
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The Chromium base, which is what Steam is built upon, itself isn't supported on Win 7,8. Can Valve work upon it to make it backwards compatible? Maybe. Will it be a pain in the ass to maintain? Absolutely.
Also, if you don't want to upgrade to Win11, you can make a 2nd partition for Linux and enjoy your games.
You could also use Win10 with ReviOS, AtlasOS, Ghost Spectre etc. as an addition to your Linux partition
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We lost Yuzu because of a Windows 7 user. Whoever that guy was, he deserved this.
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Im still preparing myself mentaly to jump to linux the next year with the out of service of 10. Its hard because stop using adobe as graphic designer... I hope we have get real linux alternative at that moment.
Its hard because stop using adobe as graphic designe
Premiere Pro, Photoshop, and After Effects all worked when I tried them on Linux Mint 22 to see if they worked
Older versions from before the CC updates for those programs that you can use them for also work and work quite well, though I do understand that there are literally missing features for professional work in some of those older versions
A real Linux alternative (or proper fucking Support but fuck adobe) would be GREAT, but the change likely won't be as bad as you might be worrying
So far the hardest thing I've had to install was called YAD, and that was so I could install Morrowind mods specifically, a rather niche need all things considered, and I've made multiple audiovisual projects on my Linux workstation without having to do anything like that
I do keep a Win10 LTSC on a side boot drive for games with anticheat and any programs I might need there but so far that's literally only been handbrake, which I'm sure there's a Linux version/alternative for but I just haven't had to use it on that OS yet due to work flow
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Who still uses windows 7 or 8? Who actually uses it for gaming?
I was using 7 right up to the point last year steam said they'd stop supporting it.
I run a computer into the ground because I'm broke.
Yeah, but then it kept working, so I kept windows 7 installed.
I'm not the only one to use this machine, and the message greatly upset the other person, so we just got a new machine over dealing with the possibility of it continuing.
I did the same thing, but mostly because my computer worked, did what I needed it to do, and I was too lazy to replace it until I was basically forced to.
After building a new PC and switching over to Linux I was like "why didn't I do this a long time ago?"
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