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[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Satisfactory had more than 1000 users this month. Popular enough in my book.

(I really need intsall Spellcheck on my device)

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

maybe with more porn

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I sure hope not

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 95 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How do you define popular? I think it already is reasonably popular, I see enough activity here that it prompts me to comment at least somewhere on most days. I think it's going to become more popular over time.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If I saw this question posted the first time I visited Lemmy (some months before the Reddit app drama) with "popular" being defined as the current level of activity, my clear answer would be a loud and clear "probably not".

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

sure. it took reddit 20 years to get to its size.

[–] jonathan@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I think people don't realise how old Reddit is, it was smaller than Lemmy is now when I first started using it.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It also took death of a platform "Digg" to jump start its growth.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

and no subreddits! i was there too! it really started gaining traction and losing technical users when the 'image macros' started... memes took over

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[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Social media in general was also a lot smaller back then too.

Until the iPhone got popular you had to use a computer to access it. And back then we didn’t really trust sleep mode very much so you had to wait 2 minutes for windows to boot when you wanted to go on the net. VS right now I’m standing in from of my clothes not getting ready for work for 45 seconds.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I really don't think so. The vast majority of internet users just stick with whatever simple thing that serves their need. Lemmy isn't the most difficult thing, but if reddit already exists and is more popular then people won't be leaving that for this if they haven't already.

The boost in people coming here last year was a "last straw" kind of deal from people using reddit who cared enough about not supporting their shit decisions, but by now that has died down and we've seen from recent articles that reddit "won" and they have a metric fuckton of users.

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Things need to be really bad at Reddit before most people would consider leaving. On the other hand, Lemmy would need to be amazingly good to produce the same effect. Neither of these have happened yet, so only few people migrated.

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[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

the place is infested with bots, and that's probably "winning" to them.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's already popular.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

It's already popular enough to be a meme scroll substitute for Reddit so I'm good.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago

Lemmy doesn't have to be Reddit. Lemmy is Lemmy. Keep coming here and giving it content and it will be all it will ever need to be.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I see folks posting on Mastodon, griping that it’s failing, that it’ll never be as popular as Bluesky and Threads because of X and Y, and I’m like, I’m over there chatting to people all day, having a fine time, following new people, picking up new followers, and generally enjoying it more than I ever really enjoyed Twitter.

I don’t really understand why those folks want it to be more than it is.

“Oh, but there are no journalists!”

Good? I don’t want endless ragebait posted in my feeds. I just wanna be chill, share music recommendations, and enjoy more people interacting with my radio show than ever did on Twitter.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

“Oh, but there are no journalists!”

Good? I don’t want endless ragebait posted in my feeds.

I don't think that's the kind of "journalism" your strawman desires.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 1 points 6 days ago

I have no strawman. I had a wickerman, but, well, it’s awkward.

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[–] shapis@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nah. But it’s already everything I need it to be.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's popular enough for me already. I kind of hope it doesn't become the online site because that will just attract trolls.

I've also been using Trust Café (aka WT.Social) but I like the Lemmy UI a lot better.

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh, of course. We'll easily be just as popular as Matrix and Mastodon.

sigh

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I don't want it to be popular. I want to have a good conversation, in the communities i choose to participate in, and that's exactly what I found

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

No. The whole fediverse thing is niche and likely always will be. That might be a good thing though.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right now, it's definitely a good thing it's not popular. We are not in any way shape or form ready for the spam that popular platforms receive.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't want it to become a cesspit like Reddit, Facebook, and Xitter.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You'd typically think the abuse that happens on a higher level than dumb spam which those platforms succumb to would be even worse, but I feel we're somehow in a slightly better position to regulate that on Lemmy because of the delegation of moderation to users rather than instance admins.

We "just" need a relatively small amount of the "right" people to effectively counter that.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The problem is that who and what you consider to be right is extremely subjective.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Their success is relatively easy to measure objectively by their effectiveness at protecting communities from i.e. subtle trolls or troll enablers.

Though one's opinion on topics can influence the ability to spot such scum in the moment, the "right" people/a good moderator will know how to do that despite their topical (dis)agreements.

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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

I think the Fediverse will be popular. It's already being adopted by Meta in the way of Threads.

Popularity comes when major companies, like Meta, push for something to be in the mainstream. Will Lemmy be popular and be pushed for the mainstream? Probably not. The mindset of the majority of the admins is against streamlining it. It's why we have a bunch of instances and why so many of them defederated from Threads (which I agree with). They've even taken steps to stop having so many people default to the .world instance in an attempt to diversify it.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I think we're going to need to start by defining what "popular" means.

According to https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy, there are 462,745 total Lemmy users. (Note: I know nothing about this site or their metrics; I literally just Googled "Lemmy users.")

If 462,745 people showed up to my birthday party, I would feel like the most popular person on the planet.

So, I think we need to consider a less abstract figure to answer this. Will Lemmy ever be as popular as a place like Reddit? I think that's extremely unlikely, at least not anytime soon. But will Lemmy ever be popular enough to sustain an engaged community? I dunno; I kind of think we're already there.

Maybe this is the old head in me, but I remember the decentralized days of the early internet, where communities weren't oceans of people on social media giants, but rather smaller, close-knit forums and message boards. If you spent a few months interacting, you would likely get to know and have specific opinions about individual users that you would regularly engage with, unlike the sort of hit-and-run buzz style of the modern social internet. I think right now, Lemmy is almost treading a special sweet spot between the two eras, and I'm pretty happy with it.

Although I will concede that I'm as addicted to social media as everyone else is these days, and I would certainly welcome the increase in on-the-minute activity that additional users would bring.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

462k are the people that have created an account, Lemmy actually has ~40k active users (and even then "active" just means they logged in once this month). I do share the sentiment that not everything has to be super popular but Lemmy really could use more people.

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

It's already popular with a good userbase. Popular with idiots? Hopefully not.

[–] _____@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

very hot take:

regular people will never get rid of twitter or meta, Facebook. YouTube. it's incompatible with their psychology.

they need to use what other people are using, they need to see "content" from their followed users

switching to another platform will kill that for them for weeks and stall their "growth"

to be forward thinking and to give up something you've had is too much for the average person

which is why I'm on Lemmy: there's nothing reddit offers to me that makes me "give" it up, it's always been there but now that there's competition it's worth trying something new out

I honestly think id anything Lemmy will have a slow decrease of users until it comes to a halt

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[–] 7ai@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

We need to make it popular against all corporate forces like meta, X, bluesky etc. By creating more content and interacting with it more.

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't really care either way, i like it here.

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'm gonna say yes, for the exercise.

Four assumptions:

  1. Reddit will keep getting worse, due to the nature of enshittification and venture capital. Eventually enshittification reaches a breaking point where people leave or stop arriving.
  2. Lemmy (in a broad sense - et al!) will keep getting better, due to.the nature of open source software.
  3. Non-free alternatives to Reddit will eventually enshittify, law of enshittification.
  4. Free alternatives will use ActivityPub for the obvious advantages.

If these assumptions are met, given infinite rounds of enshittification and unhappy users, eventually a federated and free alternative will be the most lucrative option for the majority of users. Eventually Reddit will Digg itself a hole. Maybe Lemmy won't take over then, but it'll stick around.

The most unrealistic assumption is of course that the federated solutions will keep getting better indefinitely. Maybe they won't. But as long as people keep developing and contributing to the Fediverse, it's alive and improving in a way commercial alternatives cannot in the long run compete with.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The Fediverse is only gonna get better. The other ones will all come and go.

In some number of years after another social media debacle or two, once the Fediverse has had some time to ditch its FOSS clunkiness, it'll be game over for anything else.

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